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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Coincidental nature of the numbers - now with pictures! |
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INTRODUCTION
The explanation with pictures can be found on page 5, I suggest reading that one. These following messages have a lot of words, but they have some clues and evidence that explain how I came up with these ideas. There is also a fuller explanation of how Backgammon is coincidental with these ideas and the story of Lost. These following messages also tell of how the story developed, as I didn't see all of the images and Number arrangements from the start. Please consider in reading this explanation of the meaning of the Numbers that it not only ALLOWS, but DEMANDS that there be OTHER meanings behind these wonderful Numbers. So if you agree with this explanation, do not rule out other Number theories, as they ALL have great significance.
I decided to do an experiment to discover the nature of coincidences, and inspired by the Lost DHARMA symbol based on the I Ching - which reveals the Tao (and Dharma and Tao are the same thing) - I flipped six coins six times in a particular way, to get six 6-digit binary numbers. Then I noted coincidences the following day involving the numbers. I planned to do this every day for at least a month, but after only 3 days I could not handle any more, because there were constant astonishing coincidences, and they all linked together. Coincidentally of course these 3 days each contained 36 (6x6) coin flips so at the end when I was forced to stop there were a total of 108 coin flips, just as the total from the Lost numbers 4+8+15+16+23+42=108.
I have been writing the coincidences in another forum for a couple of weeks, there were far too many, even taking so long I only listed a fraction of the coincidences that occured. I will likely not repeat them here, except perhaps a summary. Of course the numbers gathered together constantly in reality and usually appeared with other coincidences, but the most extraordinary coincidences came from the PATTERN of the numbers, or the pictures they made. This looking into the pictures made by the numbers revealed some interesting things about Lost, and constant coincidences with Lost. Here is the binary pattern of the Lost numbers (divided into 3 digit 'trigrams') and I will begin to explain......
000 100 (0 4) 4
001 000 (1 0) 8
001 111 (1 7) 15
010 000 (2 0) 16
010 111 (2 7) 23
101 010 (5 2) 42
You can use a computer to make the images, but better is to draw a 6x6 grid and fill in every square where there is a 1, leaving 0 squares blank. So you get a black (1) and white (0) image. I've seen this done before, but for some reason it was the wrong way round - this is the correct way to represent binary numbers. Of course many have seen how this creates a very precise image of somebody sat at a computer entering numbers (note the person is reaching to the far side of the keyboard where the numbers are located). So indeed entering the numbers into a computer creates an image of someone entering the numbers into a computer - so it creates a direct link between the pattern of the numbers and the pattern of reality. Yet note this image has appeared in a different context in the show, but they are linked by John Locke seen doing both. It also looks like somebody sat playing backgammon - or some other game - yet backgammon is coincidental and a clue to this because of one of the dice being in base 2 like binary. So these two images are made part of the plot, the numbers being entered into the computer and the board game - also bringing the idea of opposition - two sides, black v white, good v evil, etc. which is a central theme of the show. Yet note how entering the numbers or 'pressing the button' is closely linked to the backgammon game by Locke mainly - first Locke is the head of the button pushers, and it is involved in opposition and strategies. For example Jack uses it in a strategy to free the fake Henry Gale from torture, Sawyer uses it in a strategy to get the guns - being the distraction while his other 'piece' (Charlie) makes his move. Then it ends in conflict when Locke changes sides and becomes head of the non-button pushers, being replaced by Mr. Eko as head button pusher - so becomes black v white. Strategies are involved, and extra 'pieces' - Desmond playing white and Charlie playing black - opposite side to Locke again. (Interesting his surname Pace also sounds like 'piece'.)
If you turn the image sideways (right side down), another image appears, again black on white. This time it is somebody stood praying, or doing the body-action that always occurs when people say, "Namaste". Standing over this person is a 'big boss' very strictly watching over them, hands tightly clasped behind the back. So we have the namaste-saying followers and the 'great man', but 'not very forgiving' - Alvar Hanso or another maybe? But from my point of view this image has another interpretation, but I might go into this later.
In the same way the 'hexagrams' (6 digit) are split into 2 'trigrams' (3 digit) also the images split into left and right halves, this also occured with the images from my numbers. Look at the left image sideways (right side down) and white on black. Here there is a dot above a line, and a wing or half-aeroplane shape - as a whole it looks like a 'plane crashing onto the shore of a sunny island, especially after the rest of the images are considered. The right image upright and black on white has a 'key' to this image. Again we see a dot above a line, and underneath that an image of a bird or 'plane.
Looking at this right image sideways and white on black the following image appears...
:16
Notice how this looks like a clock display, and is coincidental with the countdown timer where the numbers had to be entered. Also note that 16 is one of the numbers which made the image, and was to be entered into the computer - so here we have the idea of the numbers appearing coincidentally. Note this coincidental appearance of significant and connected numbers and patterns is NORMAL, as the same pattern is behind the numbers as large-scale events and indeed the whole of reality. This pattern has always been recognised - the Egyptians called it Ma'at, the Chinese called it Tao, the Indians called it Dharma, the Greeks called it the Logos, etc.
If we look at the numbers in base 3, this makes a 3 colour image (4x6), white (0), black (1) and another I'll call grey (2)...
0011 (4)
0022 ( - Damn annoying smileys!
0120 (15)
0121 (16)
0212 (23)
1120 (42)
If you look at this image sideways (left side down) an image of a grey 'plane appears, being broken in half by some mysterious black thing. Note this resembles a column of black smoke rising from the ground and blown by the wind (or under its own control).
So, the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 in their simplest representation only shows several things that are coincidental with the show....
- 'Plane being broken in half.
- Mysterious malevolent black entity, or column of black smoke from the ground.
- 'Plane crashing onto shore of sunny island (dot above line).
- Entering the numbers into a computer.
- Opposition, 2 sides and strategies (also connected to same image of entering numbers).
- Countdown timer.
- Coincidental appearance of the numbers.
- People saying, "Namaste".
- 'Big strict boss'.
Of course my numbers were also connected, and extremely coincidental with Lost, but I'll go into that another time, for now I just wanted to show how the story of the TV show seems to be created from the numbers. The I Ching explanations of these numbers is also coincidental with the story, as others have pointed out.
To be continued..... _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 816 Location: Manchester, England
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I will write my own numbers here for the 3 days of the experiment, and also some coincidences with Lost which you might find interesting. Looking at all the numbers as a whole reveals what is behind the numbers - the Logos (or Ma'at/Tao/Dharma), and apparently the story behind the story Lost is based on.
Day 1
010 110 (2 6) 22
101 010 (5 2) 42
000 111 (0 7) 7
111 010 (7 2) 58
010 001 (2 1) 17
101 101 (5 5) 45
Day 2
100 100 (4 4) 36
101 011 (5 3) 43
011 011 (3 3) 27
010 100 (2 4) 20
001 010 (1 2) 10
101 001 (5 1) 41
Day 3
011 101 (3 5) 29
000 000 (0 0) 0
100 001 (4 1) 33
110 010 (6 2) 50
111 110 (7 6) 62
111 011 (7 3) 59
One thing I've noticed is bus numbers were not so extremely coincidental with my numbers as other things were, yet about half of the buses I regularly see have the following numbers.....
4, 8, 48, 84, 15, 16, 61, 23A, 42, 142, 248.
You might notice only one of 'THE' Numbers appeared in my numbers, 42, on the first day. Yet coincidentally if you look at the 3-digit trigrams from the Numbers, which have values 0-7, and is the same as base 8 number representation (4=4, 8=10, 15=17, 16=20, 23=27, 42=52), you see 17 also appeared in my decimal numbers on day 1, and 10, 20 and 27 appeared on day 2, and also 4 coincidentally appeared 5 times that day. On day 3 however there were no noticeable coincidences at all with the Lost Numbers. What is interesting is the Lost numbers also only seem to tell the first 2 days of the story that my numbers tell.
If you make the images from my numbers you might immediately begin to notice the same splitting into left and right 3x6 images as occured with the Lost Numbers, yet also complete 6x6 pictures. The picture from day 1 is most clearly seperated. If you look at the right image sideways and black on white a 'plane appears flying over a sunny island! Compare this with the almost identical 'plane image from the base 3 representation of the Lost Numbers. On the left is the dot above a line, with the 'plane on the right, flying left towards it. But now if you look at this image as white on black the sunny island (dot above line) image appears again but this time on the right. Now the 'plane has flown to the other side but has become broken. If you look at the whole 6x6 image from this point of view it is a lot clearer, and shows the 'plane being broken in half whilst flying over the island, with bits of debris breaking off also. So here we actually have a very simple video - moving images you can play backwards and forwards with your mind! Simply switch your perception of the image from 'black on white' to 'white on black'. Compare this 'binary video' and the whole 6x6 image with the opening scenes of series 3 of Lost. There was a clip of it I saw on the internet, but I haven't been able to find it since then.
Note that like the Lost numbers, which had 16 in the picture, this 'plane looks like the number 7 when upright, which was one of the numbers that made the image (22, 42, 7, 58, 17, 45). This image also looks precisely like a mirror image of a graph of the Lost Numbers I had drawn - points (1,4) (2, (3,15) (4,16) (5,23) (6,42). Most of the images from day 1 were mirror images of reality. Also when it gets to the top this graph shows it starting again at the bottom, showing the numbers are cyclic. Also you'll notice the line drawn across the graph. If this were on the real graph it would be approximately around the numbers 19, 20 or 21. These were the days of the month when I did the experiment.
There is even a 'joke' coincidence in the whole image from day 1. If you look at it upside-down black on white, at the bottom it says 'tv'. Then looking at the whole white on black it says diagonally 'is iT?' and reminds me of the turning white on black Lost logo, especially since diagonally the other way it says 'ST'.
The image from day 2 didn't have much coincidence with Lost, however there is a very precise image of me sat in my room watching TV (and there wasn't much else I watched apart from Lost at the time). The image from day 2 is the one that has the most different things somehow all crammed into the same 3x6 and 6x6 images and all perfectly precise and coincidental. The precision of all of the binary images is astounding for such a tiny low-resolution image. Also notice the number 45 appears white on black on day 2, which was another number from day 1. I've since seen how the two numbers pictured, 45 and 7 define my life and some of the most astonishing coincidences occured whenever those two numbers appeared together.
By the way, the numbers from day 2 are viable lottery numbers. I have never used them, I've never played the lottery - don't even know how to! You are free to try them - but heed Hurley's warning - abusing the special numbers for gain might be considered witchcraft by God - the Logos who is behind the numbers. Or it might cause some kind of disastrous imbalance if it was not according to 'the natural order of things'. If I ever did decide to play the lottery I would make new numbers with lottery coincidences all around, so they would be coincidental with the lottery. Or alternatively I would try and create a 6x6 binary image which perfectly represents me in particular winning the lottery (and at my current age). Thus they would be the numbers representing that pattern occuring in reality.
On day 3 there was an episode of Lost on TV. It was the one where Michael and Sawyer were on the broken raft, being troubled by a shark. I was particularly interested to see the scene where the shark's tail is visible for a brief moment, and the Dharma logo is seen on it. I had seen this episode before and noticed the logo, but this time it seems to have been artificially enhanced (or maybe always was) and was VERY clear to see. Notice that this logo is coincidental with the nature of the experiment, and also it was very significant that the Chinese I Ching (revealing the pattern behind reality, they called 'Tao') that this is linked to the Indian concept of Dharma - bringing forth the idea that all ancient civilisations had knowledge of this concept, and it is a vital part of religions - showing how they are all inspired by the same thing. Anyway, if you look at the right image from day 3 black on white, a picture of the shark's tail appears underneath the broken raft floating above (and indeed the whole image also looks like this). That precise scene I saw on TV just a few hours after making the numbers! Even the broken raft image at the top looks like a simple representation of the shark's tail (straight line) and the symbol being very clearly shown. However, like the graph it was a mirror image - here the shark swims right to left, but on TV it swam left to right I think.
The shark's tail (right image) also looks like a kangaroo. They live in Australia, and white on black the image from day 3 looks like Australia, with South at the top and North at the bottom. Coincidentally in the I Ching South is up and North is down also. Notice the same image of the sunny island also appears with the Australia image (dot above line again). If we consider that the shark image was a reflection of reality, also considering this Australia image is a reflection, that puts the sunny island on the other side. So this image shows that sunny island where the 'plane crashed to be roughly Northeast from Australia. Of course in the show the 'plane also left from Australia and also went roughly Northeast, to reach the island!
If you think these things are amazingly coincidental, they are nothing compared with all the other coincidences. There was something else I saw in that image from day 3 which was the point when I had finally had enough and could not handle any more coincidences - it was just completely ridiculous! Of course without knowing I then stopped after completing 108 coin flips (36 each day). I'll say more about this number later, it proved to be an extremely important number - it represents the Lost Numbers as a whole, and also it represents all of my numbers taken as a whole. I will show why later.
There were more coincidences with Lost, but they were the more significant ones. I'll finish there for now and continue again another day. There is still a little more to say about what my experiment showed was behind ALL of the numbers. _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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lachymac I pressed the button
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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looks kinda interesting... but im WAY too lazy to read all that. _________________
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Message 1 has a short summary at the end. If you can't be bothered making the image from the Lost Numbers, it can be found here...
http://home.no.net/hmsoft/images/lost_cbm64.jpg
But remember this is the wrong way round so the ':16' appears backwards and looks like 'd1:'. Otherwise it should not be too difficult to pick out all of the images that appear, although you'll have to turn your head sideways to see some. And the one from the base 3 representation of the numbers is quite easy to imagine without making the image, but I'll try and draw the image here anyway (1='@', 2='#'), first only the 'plane, including the missing piece where it is broken...
..#.....#...
..#####.
........#....
And then the whole image showing the mysterious thing breaking it in half, looking like it begins as a column of smoke rising from the ground...
..@#..@#
..@###@#
.....@@#@
.............@
This is not as accurate as making the image properly, but I hope you 'get the picture'. _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'll try and do the same with my numbers, and draw the pictures so you can see the main coincidences with Lost. But remember these are nowhere near as accurate as the actual images.....
Day 1 right half of picture sideways. ('#'=1)
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..#.....#...#..
.......####...
..##..#........
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'Plane flying over sunny island.
And the reverse image. ('#'=0)
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.....##..#....
..##...........
......#...##..
..................
'Plane broken and crashing on the other side.
And the whole image from this point of view shows it clearer but I can't be bothered making that, it's too complex.
Day 3 whole image. ('#'=1)
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.....###..#..
...................
..#..........#..
..##.....#.....
..#####.....
..###...##..
....................
Shark's tail (swimming right to left) with broken raft floating above. Also coincidentally seen that day during an episode of Lost.
Again I can't be bothered with the kangaroo and Australia with sunny island images, best to make the images for yourself, as they will be a lot clearer anyway. _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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LostLeo Lost Junkie
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Loonwolf wrote: | I'll try and do the same with my numbers, and draw the pictures so you can see the main coincidences with Lost. But remember these are nowhere near as accurate as the actual images.....
Day 1 right half of picture sideways. ('#'=1)
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..#.....#...#..
.......####...
..##..#........
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'Plane flying over sunny island.
And the reverse image. ('#'=0)
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.....##..#....
..##...........
......#...##..
..................
'Plane broken and crashing on the other side.
And the whole image from this point of view shows it clearer but I can't be bothered making that, it's too complex.
Day 3 whole image. ('#'=1)
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.....###..#..
...................
..#..........#..
..##.....#.....
..#####.....
..###...##..
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Shark's tail (swimming right to left) with broken raft floating above. Also coincidentally seen that day during an episode of Lost.
Again I can't be bothered with the kangaroo and Australia with sunny island images, best to make the images for yourself, as they will be a lot clearer anyway. |
It seems to me: 1.letter M with 90° rotation 2.letter C 3.letter R
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see the same letters as you. The letters I saw within my own images were AMAZINGLY coincidental with events of my own life and other general stuff. For example on day 1 during my lunch I sat looking at KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken), and 'KFC' is read anticlockwise in the images on day 1. On day 2 I went to the KFC for my lunch and sat looking at Grosvenor Casino (GC) next door. On day 2 'GC' also appeared in the images together with a simple representation of an extremely coincidental symbol which I saw on the side. On day 3 this casino symbol appeared PRECISELY in my images and I was forced by another amazing coincidence to see it again - even though I had planned to completely avoid it.
Notice a casino is coincidental with the IDEA of probability and coincidence, a few more such coincidences also occured. There were even coincidences with the WORD 'coincidence'. For example the letter N was very coincidental at first, then the letter C started becoming coincidental as well. This NC occurs twice within the word coiNCideNCe. Also the method I used to create the coincidences, the coin, is also found in the first four letters, COINcidence. Also the word 'coin' also is made from the coincidental C and N, the other letters being O and I which look like the 0 and 1 which the coin creates. Also this fully defines the shape of the coin - '0' shape viewed from above and '1' shape when viewed from the side.
There were more concidences with the appearance of initial letters, and EVERY letter which appeared was coincidental, as well as THE WAY they appeared was also coincidental. I may include a few of these letters in future explanations, as they very plainly show what is behind the coincidences and ALL numbers. Day 3 only seemed to contain a sideways 'i' (broken raft image). An explanation of how this fits in with the image of the fish/shark, together with the explanations of all the images together as one reveals Douglas Adams' Ultimate Question of life, the universe and everything - to which the answer is 42!
I'll continue the explanations soon..... _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, I just wanted to add a couple of things before I go on, which appear to show more precision concerning the story of Lost being created from the Numbers.....
If you'll remember I mentioned the picture of the 'plane crashing onto the shore of the sunny island in the Lost Numbers image, and next to it the key clearly showing each of the elements in the picture - which are a bit too cramped together. Of course I was thinking about this from my general point of view, but from the point of view of the Lost story there is a slight difference. I'll try and draw the images here as it probably makes it easier to compare (but always remember these are poor images - you are better looking at the link I provided, in a mirror if possible - but much better is to make ALL of the images on paper for easy turning).
Left half sideways (#=0).
.................
....#####..
..#....###..
....##....#..
.................
So here we have the front of the 'plane, with a wing missing (or just too big to fit into the picture) - flying straight down onto the shore of the sunny island. The line (##) represents the island, and the dot above and to the left is the sun. (As an interesting aside compare this with the left half of the image from day 2 of my experiment. I won't draw it, but it is very similar, except the wing is not 'filled in' and just looks like a diagonal line - yet if it WERE filled in you wouldn't be able to see the sun behind it!)
By the way, that wing shape is the PRECISE shape of that symbol I saw on the side of that coincidental casino. This symbol was extremely important in the coincidences, and in showing what is behind the coincidences (and also the story of Lost), but I'll explain about that later.
And the right half of the Lost Numbers image, upright (#=1).
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..#......
..........
..###..
..........
..###..
....#....
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I'll say more about my own interpretation later, as the coincidences clearly pointed this out as a 'key' to the other image, but according to the story of Lost we find something different.....
The same dot above line image appears again showing the sunny island, but here it appears slightly different - it is the same island but viewed from a different angle. Since the image is split into left and right halves, and the left half showed the front of the 'plane crashing according to the story of Lost - this other half of the image shows the other half of the 'plane, the tail - which it looks A LOT like! And here it is pictured crashing into the sea a short distance from the sunny island, and in a different location (hence the island 'looks different') - again PRECISELY according to the story of Lost!
Apparently the creators of Lost have been aware of the Numbers for a long time, and there have been many clues about the I Ching, binary, base 8, the Logos/Dharma, etc. There can be little doubt they have seen these images within their own Numbers, and have based Lost on the story these Numbers tell - in base 3 as well, which coincidentally tells the same story! And perhaps other arrangements of the Numbers will produce more of the story.... _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I just wanted to put the two pieces together... find the missing wing and stick that on too....
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.............#...........
..#########..
.......#####.......
...........#............
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 _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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delphia921 Lost Aficionado
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What a lovely imagination you have. _________________ "One second, I'm like this close to the highest score on Donkey Kong!".
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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I found another image within the Lost Numbers, and guess what? It has absolutely nothing to do with the Lost story!
Nah, just kidding. Like all the other images that appear it is completely coincidental with the story.
In the left image turned sideways I just mentioned about how white on black it shows the front of the 'plane crashing onto the shore of the island. Yet this same image black on white instead shows a picture of a baby crawling on all fours. I'll try and draw it here too (#=1)....
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..#............
....##........
..#....##....
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Of course one of the passengers that survived the crash, Claire, was pregnant, and gave birth to a baby early in the story - the baby then becoming involved quite a lot in the story! Also notice this image comes from the image of the front half of the 'plane crashing - also this is where Claire and the baby came from.
Indeed, there doesn't seem to be much of the story left - at least from the first two seasons - that hasn't been pictured in the images from the base 2 and base 3 number patterns. _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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delphia921 Lost Aficionado
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| Loonwolf wrote: |
Apparently the creators of Lost have been aware of the Numbers for a long time, and there have been many clues about the I Ching, binary, base 8, the Logos/Dharma, etc. There can be little doubt they have seen these images within their own Numbers, and have based Lost on the story these Numbers tell - in base 3 as well, which coincidentally tells the same story! And perhaps other arrangements of the Numbers will produce more of the story.... |
 _________________ "One second, I'm like this close to the highest score on Donkey Kong!".
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Or perhaps not, that seems to upset you!
They may NOT have seen the images and it is pure coincidence that the images are in precise agreement with the story. This may sound EXTREMELY unlikely, yet it is very possible, as I didn't live my life and choose to see particular things during the day according to the images that appeared in MY numbers. Rather, all of the images appeared coincidental with things that naturally happened in my life - things beyond my control.
As I've already pointed out, the pattern behind random things like coins being flipped is THE SAME PATTERN that is behind reality as a whole, so it IS actually just as likely that it is pure coincidence that the images agree with the story.
....Except it is not mere coincidence - it is SYNCHRONICITY. _________________ Loonwolf (man of science, man of faith)
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Triggerfisher of men Lost Aficionado
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I was wondering the other day why a lot of people think LOST fans, especially the ones who visit LOST forums, are just a little bit geeky.
I get it now. Thanks for clearing that up, guys.  _________________
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Loonwolf Lost is my Life
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I just wanted to add a couple more things before I go on. I WILL get onto finishing the original explanation eventually.....
I was finding out about the game Backgammon and I noticed some additional things coincidental with what I've been explaining.....
First the 'doubling cube'. This is not rolled in the game, but is merely turned to double the value to indicate double the stakes in the game - thus one player can change the stakes to 2x the original value, then the other player can double again to 4x, then the first player can double to 8x, etc. The values on the cube are as follows.....
2 4 8 16 32 64
So notice, as well as these being coincidental with the Lost Numbers (except 15, which looks like 16)....
4=4, 8=8, 16=16, 23=32 (backwards), 42=2 4 (backwards)
....also this doubling indicates the values of binary digits, the first six being 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 and 32, as seen in the link I provided to the mirror-image Lost Numbers image. If you are not familiar with binary it is exactly the same as multiplying by 10 in decimal to get the values of the decimal digits 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000, etc. Eg.
108 = (1*100) + (0*10) + (8*1) = 100 + 0 + 8
binary 100100 = (1*32) + (0*16) + (0* + (1*4) + (0*2) + (0*1)
= 32 + 0 + 0 + 4 + 0 + 0 = 36
(As I mentioned before, the digit that represents the HIGHEST value goes on the LEFT, and the LOWEST value (1) goes on the RIGHT - that is why the image in that link is the wrong way around. It is like the number 36 (3*10 + 6*1) being represented backwards as 63.)
This base 2 and base 10 and all such number systems are merely representations of the numbers using symbols. This is the number 36 in its CORRECT form.....
111111111111111111111111111111111111
But also in Backgammon two regular dice were used and randomly rolled as well. Yet what is different about Backgammon compared with most other 2-dice games is the dice are to be viewed seperately, producing two numbers instead of adding together the numbers and producing one number. Notice this is first coincidental with the I Ching and the two sets of numbers randomly cast. With dice there are two values from 1-6, and in the I Ching with base 8 random numbers there are two values from 0-7. Yet in Backgammon the same piece could be moved twice, using both the numbers, so long as the first move is a legal move - just like 2 I Ching trigrams can be put together to make complete hexagrams.
So this is coincidental with the base 8/binary images which are made by rolling two 8-sided dice, or flipping two sets of 3 coins, etc. And it is also coincidental with the actual images themselves, which are made from the two halves seperately, or alternatively the same image can use both halves. Apart from the clear I Ching diagram in the DHARMA symbol (and of course the name 'Dharma' itself), the statue of a foot with 4 toes - implying a race with 8 fingers in total - practically screams out, "BASE 8 COUNTING SYSTEM!"
These two counting systems - our base 10 and the I Ching base 8 - are also pointed out by the addition of the Numbers, producing 108 (10 and ! Although I will show a different significance of the particular number 108, which is coincidental with images that appear in ALL the sets of numbers which I came across - eventually! Also someone pointed out that the digits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8 all occur in the Lost Numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42. So the digits 0, 7 and 9 are missing. Yet again this coincidentally implies base 8 and base 10 counting systems (0-7 and 0-9)!
One of the main strategies in Backgammon is to block your opponent from making his move. This blocking strategy was used in two of the examples I gave in my first message - including the final game black v white (Eko v Locke). First concerning the opposition created by the fake Henry Gale being tortured, Locke and Sayid block Jack from making his move. But then Jack blocks Locke, forcing him release HIS block and allow Jack to make his move. And I just noticed that Sayid was the one who insisted the fake Henry Gale must be tortured - so this game was Jack v Sayid - light v dark like Backgammon again.
Then again in the final game when Eko blocks Locke from making his move, he must then use a strategy to remove Eko's block, and then put his own game-winning block in place. Eko sees the 'trap' he fas fallen into, but it is too late. However he pulls off a stunning move attempting to block Locke before he can complete the move - by throwing his stick under the door - but Locke is ready for this, and immediately 'takes his piece'.
Sawyer on the other hand doesn't use such simple blocking strategies, he uses more cunning strategies, and is a great player in these games. He has a great skill for making others do what he wants, and making them think it was their own most excellent idea!
Concerning Locke changing sides and 'going in the complete opposite direction', this is also part of the game of Backgammon. Each player's pieces start on their side of the board and travel in one direction. Then when they reach the edge of the board they switch sides and then move in the opposite direction - they make a complete U-turn just like Locke! Also that is why the fake Henry Gale said he was coming - to get Locke to change sides and become one of the Others.
Also in the game a piece can move onto a space where there is only one opposing piece, and that piece then moves to a thick line across the middle of the board and is stuck there until it is able to move out. This same rule also appeared in the story as when only Locke was left to guard the fake Henry Gale - and let him out (AGAIN in response to becoming 'blocked') - Locke then becomes trapped on the thick line across the middle of the place (under the thick door), allowing Fenry the freedom to make his moves. Notice he uses his move involving pushing the button in a strategic way again - to gain the trust of Locke and also to plant the seeds of doubt in his mind which caused him to change sides and become opposed to pushing the button.
Also notice the image of a baby crawling I recently mentioned can also be interpreted as someone crawling through air ducts - which both Fenry and Kate have already done - and there might be more I can't remember. Yet I would expect this to occur a couple more times in the show at least, unless these images are now finished and not recurring.
But anyway I hope you see now how closely connected the game of Backgammon and the 'games' involved in pushing the button are. As I showed at the very start, sat entering the numbers into the computer and sat playing the game of Backgammon are exactly the same image.
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