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shaktidiva · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: Suicide Quarantine

Suicide Quarantine

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Well here goes my theory-
the saying goes that once you are ready to commit suicide that is when yoga begins. It is also when your true dharma can be revealed.

I believe that the dharma iniative is a group of individuals or secret society trying to bring back our Lost tribe from the brink of suicidial tendencies and offer them oppurtunites to find their true lifes purpose.
All of the Lost crew have tried to commit suicide (and all of them have a reason too) and have not succeeded.

They have been quarantined in an experiemental matrix where their realities can be manipulated through what is known as the fourth state of consciousness known as turiya. This state occurs when the consciousness is trained to look inwards instead of outwards.

They will only have 108 days on the island to find thier true dharma or they will continue on their path to suicide. It takes 108 days of a certain type of Tantric practice to become self realized. This practice consists of being forced into the awareness of the present moment, which is what the Others are doing to our Lost crew by manipulating their realities with life or death situations and having to push the button.

The Lost crew will be unable to have awareness of the present moment unless they have alambana or support - this support is brought about on the basis of ones swabhava or inherent, innate nature, not one that is learned through enviorment.

Ana Lucia was let out of the matrix because she changed her ways and realized her true nature.

The hamso foundation is dedicated to turning awareness towards the inner self- by understanding the mystery of hamso you come to know the self.

Currently on the island they are myred in their own maya or illusion --that comes from their own individual minds. Each Lost member is living in their own reality, but they have the shared consciousness of living on the island because they are in quarantine together.

The whole point is for them to find their true lifes purpose

ilikelost · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject:

I quite like this. But what keeps them from attempting suicide once on the Island. I mean if they were already depressed enough to the point of suicide wouldn't crashing on a deserted island kind of add to the want to kill themselves?
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shaktidiva · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject:

I think that crashing on a deserted island with hostile inhabitants actually launches them into survival mode the basest of all of our instincts. They have very little time to think about their problems because they are in the present moment they are behaving from instinct not a place of the thinking mind.

PKTjellis · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Suicide Quarantine

JWBtheIV · Lost Junkie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 58

I can't really think of any survivors that ever thought about suicide. The only one that has a 'deathwish' is Sawyer.

mrmclz · Lost Newbie Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 11

well, for one thing, Hurly did attempt to commit suicide but was persuaded against it. Also, ana lucia (and libby) were killed because they were arrested for dui. the script was changed to accomidate this and it was not planned to happen. also, if it was, what is your explination for libby, boone, and the pilot dieing. btw: i'm pretty sure that lock, eko, and deffinantly desmond die at the end of season 2. do u have explinations for any of that?

NoneOfThisIsReal · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:46 am Post subject:

I don't recall any of the people on this show trying to commit suicide. Ever. Sure they have all had tough lives:

Hurley thinks he's too fat
Jack regrets his relationship with his father
Kate regrets killing her long lost love indirectly
Sawyer hates the man who killed his father
Locke wants his father to love him
Sun and Jin live a forbidden love
Sayid had to betray his friendship
Etc. Etc. Etc ....................

These occurances never caused any of them to attempt suicide.
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PKTjellis · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:18 am Post subject:

just another other · I am Him Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 5353

The links between the name of DHARMA, and the things you have mentioned here are very interesting, and could point in the direction of your theory....

shaktidiva · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

the challenges set forth are to provoke them to return to their inate nature. they have free will in their choices and those choices will direct their journey. In spiritual traditions one can not move forward until you surrender to something higher, or realize unconditional love, allowing the ego to dissolve.

I believe that the island is not real- but a suggested enviorment for them to work out their stuff. The flashbacks are what really happened, but the things they see on the island- jacks father, the black horse, hurly's friend are manifested from their own minds.

Just to be clear - I know that we never SAW any of the Losties try to commit suicide. But I think that this is the underlying comminality between them all. They all have a reason to give up on life.

I do not believe that Desmond is dead. I think that Locke will be crippled
again. I think that Eko realizes the reason for the button, so his time may be over.

Also there is a mantra in the Tantric tradition called Ham So - that is said to lead one to self realization- interesting that it is very close to the Hanso foundation

Papoose · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject:

na dont buy it. rubbish.
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galdino · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject:

I don't buy it too, but it's a good theory
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PKTjellis · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject:

dino...is that a south park version of yourself? or just somebody you made up?
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galdino · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

PKTjellis · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:

Haha sick...I used to have that program but I lost it.

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