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condog · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: BOOMERANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

What if the one place in the world that you loathed most, was also the one place you could never escape? Would you do anything ot change that? Would you kill to change that?

All the talk about this so called "snowglobe effect" has made me think alot. I don't believe in that stuff but i do beleive in something close to it. I like to call it the "boomerang effect". This effect has been tested on many islands.

it is a force that some how brings everything that has been in contact with the island back. You can easily escape it but there is no way that you won't end up back on the island.

I believe that the hanso foundations oldest project was to do with fate. they decided to create places ( the losties island plus other islands) that some how brought people back to it...

"Fenrys others" job is to make sure that no one except the "good" people make it off the island. Michael and Walt are good people. i think the others would have let the raft get off the isalnd if Sawyer and Jin hadnt been there. that is because Jin and Sawyer are not good people. that is the reason they took Walt. to lure michael into their camp so he could get Walt back escape and bring the three other good people to them.

The original experiments on the island (the "zombie" set of others ) have escaped many times but it wasnt till the third or fourth time they realised they kept boomeranging back to the island.

This effect is also the reason that the raft didnt make it off the island ... they were doing fine but suddenly they couldnt go any further because fate (fenrys others)kicked in and blew up their raft...

This is also the reason the plane crashed on the island. I believe certain people on the island were born on the isalnd and then sent off into the world by hanso to see if their boomerang islaqnd actually did work. My theory is that the people returning to the island were Jacks father Eko and Locke.

Locke is pretty obvious becasue he seems to know everything about the island and trust the island like he has lived there before.

Jacks dad was born there and sent out to make the world a better place by being a doctor.

And Eko because they wanted him to realise that his religion was very important to him.

I beleive the reason the drug plane crashed was because they thought Eko was going to be on the plane but Yemi took his place. Eko was supposed to be a replacement at the swan. This is why kelvin and desmond were alone for so long. He was late. In episode 8 of season two (collison) locke and eko meet for the first time. As they great each other it flashes to another part of the island. I belive that Locke and Eko continued to converse. Eventually Locke popped the question"What did one snowman say to the other?". And Eko replied "smells like carrots". This proves that Eko is the replacement because that was the code des and kelvin used.

At the beginning of the post i said that there were more than one boomerang island. I beleive the other one was in the arctic ... as one of the polar bears started to go on an ice drift off the island there was a glitch in the effect. The polar bear was sent to the wrong island on his boomerang back. This polar bear went on a huge long drift down to wherever lost island is.

The reason the boomerang effect wont kick in on Michael and Walt again is because they are not leaving the island yet .. i say this because i found it weird that Fenry said " if you follow that bearing you'll find rescue". I think that by rescue he ment another island with scientists that can deactivate the boomerang effect.

Edit: (thanks to LillyFan07 who posted her list of strange occuramces in the general forum.). The other Hanso agent who made sure one of the losties was on the plane was the farmer who kate stayed with. He was working on environmental projects for Hanso when one of Hansos other experiments took a nap with his piggys. He knew one of Hansos experiments was a fujitive and had received a photo of her. He knew he had to contact the hanso foundation to find out what to do. He was then contacted by a man working for Hanso posing as a u.s marshall. This man then put kate on the plane.

Edit: What i realised i forgot to add was that there were members of dharma on the plane. The dharma-member i feel certain was on the plane is Cindy.

In Gary Troups book (BAD TWIN) the widmores send another female agent to spy on the main character of the story Paul Artisan.

I feel the situation was generally the same for cindy. She was sent to spy on one of the losties (i think it was eko and ill explain why later). once her job was done and she had enough info she just ran off into the woods without the tailies noticing and joined back up with dharma. if you remeber the episode when the tailies are headed for the losties camp Cindy just disapears into thin air. I think she saw a dharma-member she knew and ran off to meet him/her.

Mr. Eko... i beleieve he was being followed by dharma becausehe had been in contact with one of their most important experiments. The girl who drowned but than came back to life. I think she was the first human memeber of the life extension project that Hanso has going. This was when Hanso realized Eko was not on the drug plane that crashed on the island.he then knew he had to get eko on the island so that the boomerang effect would be complete.He made sure Cindy was near him when the plane went down and that it was definately eko on the plane

Edit: (thank you to just another other) The psychic that claire went to was with dharama . he had been a fake psychic all his life until Hanso met him by chance and studied his psychic abitlity. The psychic felt inspired by hansos belief in him and truly tried to be a psychic. However Hanso asked for much in return. He said that if he came in contact with any foresights regarding Hanso or dharma to immediatley contact him. That is why the psychic didnt send claire on the flight the firsat time they met. it wasn't until he contacted Hanso that he knew he had her.

Edit: I believe the food drop wasnt done by a plane at all. If it was the boomerang effect would pull to many Hanso/dharma planes in and make them crash. Hanso realized this before the experiments had even begun. So he created a large and extremely precise cannon/slingshot device near the center at the highest point of the island. It's sole purpose was to send food to different hatches and it only comes up from under the mountain when necessary.The reason for the lock down was because if this cannon was seen by the losties many would want to travel up to see what it was. There, they would discover the main base for dharma and learn more than they chould know.

The reason the losties never saw the device when the food was first sent was because it was night time. Most food "shots" will be sent at night time. How ever when one is sent at daytime i beleive the losties will see it and get a group to travel there (sayid,charlie, locke, eko and desmond). upon arrival they will realise they have made a big discovery as well as a bog mistake. They will be captured in the same manner as our beloved love triangle jack kate and sawyer. Much like hurley charlie will be sent back and told to tell our losties never to return here. These four men will be the first to discover who is "him".

"HIM"-my theory so far on who he is is the real Mr.Sawyer. that is the reason Sawyer was put on the plane. He had heard of his friends death and knew the murderer had to be the man searching for him for most of his life. Mr.Sawyer wanted to know our Sawyer (further on titled james) was a strong and determined enough person to track down such a powerful man.

Lockes dad- This man needed the money badly so he could pay Mr.Sawyer money to put his son on the plane. He knew Locke could become a very dangerous person in the future as he was slowly becoming interested in knives and "walkabouts". Lockes dad of course wanted to avoid being killed by locke so he told Hanso he'd have the money to him soon. Those two hitmen were snet by Hanso to retrieve the money and upon learning that Lockes dad was not good for it , they became violent.

EDIT: the natives (thank you to doctor hanso for this suggestion) The natives of the island were always happy people who lived among the spirit of the isand "변호인" (which in english is defender)
Until the day dharma and Hanso arrived they lived regular native lives, fishing, hunting, gatheringg food etc.. They also knew of the boomerang effect the island had. These people spoke a language similar to korean. The word they used for this effect was " 누워서 침 뱉기" . That translates into english as boomerang. Many of te natives knew the secret of escaping which is of course to go to the island "rescue". One of these peiople was dr.Candles great great grand father. He continued to tell his grand children the story of the island they called "생활의 정원" (in english: garden of life). Eventually when the dr. Candle of Paik heavy industries (the Paik family was also from the island) met an Alvar Hanso, he told the same story to him. This is when Hanso started the boomerang effect project. Along with Paik Heavy Industries they created the dharma initiative. Although dr.Candle did not want Hanso to discover his homeland he knew it had become innebitable.

Upon arrival on the island Hanso was treated with utmost disrespect from the natives. They wanted him to leave . Much like The losties are being treated by the others now. Eventually Hanso used his weasel-like debate skills and bribery to get the natives to retreat to the other side of the island. The spirit called defender was not pleased by this. He took his visible form which is a large cloud of black smoke and started to fend off the invaders. This is what dr.Paik ment by "the incident". This spirit has completely eliminated all the "bad" people from the island at this point. There are three sets of people he spared. Fenrys group ... rousseau... and of course the natives.

One day the spirit was interupted by a plane crashing on the island. He knew there would be "bad" people on set plane so he took off to observe them.He started at the tailies group and took many sets of people until there were only "good" people. When at the losties camp he realized many of these people were "good" all but the pilot and Arzt. He quickly eliminated the pilot but almost took a good person in the process. that person was John Locke. Later on he tried to take Arzt but failed at the first attempt. before he had a chance to attack again Arzt was in a million pieces.

Edit: The reason Jack was in the middle of the jungle for the crash was because he was taken. He was taken by the natives and tattooed. They did this so that the defender would not hurt him. They could see how the defender would be easily confused by jack and his father being on the island. They wanted jack to appear to be native. And of course the reason Jack never mentioned the fact that the tattooes were new was because he didnt want to be looked upon like Ethan as a spy. He knew that trail led to torture and even death.

thats the theory so far ... thanks to all supporters and a huuuggeee thank you to just another other for putting this theory on th list of the best theories Very Happy

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homesliceNWA · Lost Newbie Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 15

its a little out there, and it jumps back and forth between something spiritual and something mechanical, but its good

$m0k3 · Lost Junkie Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 51

How would this explain fHenry giving cordinates so that Micheal and Walt can get off the island. Because from what we have heard Micheal is not a character in the next season.

themetroid1 · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject:

Uhhh...What you said about Michael and Walt being good people can't be right. I can see Walt being a good person, but, we all remember what our buddy Michael did to Anna Lucia and Libby.
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condog · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject:

i see what your saying but i think that the thers can see he just needed to save his son and was willing to do anything to help some one .. helping some one is a good thing in my mind .. but killing some one is bad too so i thank you for your point
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just another other · I am Him Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 5353

I like some parts of this theory, but I am unsure on the idea of fate....

However, your idea of somewhat 'controlled' fate is very interesting. It is like saying that some group (or possibly individual) is trying to 'play God'.... I do agree with this, as i think this is happening to an extent, what with the workings of the Pearl and Swan hatches....

If Dharma/Hanso/Widmore are saying 'Look, sit in a hatch, and prevent a major incident if you have the mental strength, otherwise we will see what happens', then this is allowing an extent of free will, and is, in a sense, controlling an individual, yet letting them truly decide thier 'fate'.....

I am also not entirely sure of this idea, but it would be an interesting twist:

condog · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject:

thanks ..

thats weird because before i posted my theory i was thinking ... theres something i forgot to add ... and you hit the nail on the head with that comment .. i get back to it
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condog · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject:

i have now finished updating this theory so now i need more things to explain .. please tell me what needs explaining
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just another other · I am Him Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 5353

I like your ideas about Cindy a lot..... I think that the whole plane crew may have been linked with Dharma, and to an extent, maybe even the whole of Oceanic Airlines.....

Do you believe that there were other outside agents in working with Dharma, including Jack Shephard and the psychic etc?
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condog · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject:

keep up the suggestions i love putting my mind to this theory
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condog · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject:

c'mon this is my best theory so far help me out
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condog · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject:

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TheMonsterRocksOn · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:59 am Post subject:

condog · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:00 am Post subject:

point taken
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TheMonsterRocksOn · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:02 am Post subject:

no offense man it's just people would rather you edited your last post instead of triple posting
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