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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Remote viewing... Reply with quote

A lot of people have posted theories about the show being inside someones head (Hurley etc.), but I have a slightly different way of looking at this concept.....

I think that the island may be a remote viewing experiment (ran by Dharma or Hanso), and that all of the events on the island are being imagined by a group of people - maybe the losties, or maybe someone else. The losties may not even be real people. I know that this seems like a bit of a simple and silly explanation, but please read on, this has some interesting links.....

Here is a wikipedia article about Remote viewing. As you can see, remote viewing is a scientifically proven method which actually works, and is linked with parapsychology and clairvoyancy. Now we know that Tha Hanso Foundation and Dharma are involved in parapsychology, and that many people have speculated that Claire's psychic is in co-operation with one (or both) of these parties...

I therefore believe that Hanso or Dharma are researching this, and that people are being experimented on, and are subsequently the 'viewers' of the island. Although I stated that the losties may not be real, I think that they are, and that they are 'viewing' the island. I believe, before the experiment, they met each other as part of the research, and are vaguely familiar with one another.

This could explain a few things:

-The losties lives are linked, and this is because they have imagined relationships with each other which they have had in the past...
-A lot of the occurences on the island are very unlikely, and could only be imagined to be possible. Therefore, that could be the answer: They could be imagined.... sometimes the most simple explanation is the best one.
-In addition, many people on th island have had dreams and visions, and these have came in many forms - preminitions, humans, animals and objects. Things such as Yemmi (Eko's brother), the black horse, Dave (Hurley's friend) and Charlie's mother have all been imagined.

Moving on; as we know, one of the hatches is called The Swan. One of the key people associated with remote viewing is called Ingo Swann. Coincidence? I'm cynical. Here is a wikipedia article about him.

This again could be a link, and another reference to remote viewing.

Finally, this theory could explain the image which we are all probably familiar with; the sign which says 'Magnetic Resonance Imagining' (instead of 'Magnetic Resonance Imaging', which is a known tool in medicine) in the hospital with Kate's mother. Here is the image, from s1e22, Born To Run, which I found at Lost-Media:



EDIT: Take a look at this image too:



Is this evidence of Hanso and Dharma partaking in experiments of remote viewing? It looks like a very simple investigation into it, and does pertain to the show. As I said earlier, we know that the island has been used for exploration into parapsychology....

As a final thought though, I must add this; although I like this theory, I hope it is not correct, as I think that it would somewhat spoil what we have come to love about the show and would make for a bad ending...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm... I dunno about that theory
but I don't think the horse was imagined
cause two people saw it at the same time
is it something possible?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting...would explain all the wild, random chances of them all having crossed paths. Would explain the constant presence of the "numbers" as well. I'm with you, though, I hope that's not it!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe if a group of people (the losties) met each other before the experiment, they could have talked about a horse. Therefore, it could be in thier subconcious, and they could both have imagined it.

I don't know though, that is only an educated guess....
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another good site about remote viewing. It again mentions Ingo Swann....

http://skepdic.com/remotevw.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

galdino182 wrote:
mmm... I dunno about that theory
but I don't think the horse was imagined
cause two people saw it at the same time
is it something possible?


My theory was that it was smokey masquerading as a horse.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slopster53 wrote:
galdino182 wrote:
mmm... I dunno about that theory
but I don't think the horse was imagined
cause two people saw it at the same time
is it something possible?


My theory was that it was smokey masquerading as a horse.


LOL, mine too
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the bump, but look at the first post in this thread:

http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22204

Remember seeing this in the first Orientation video?

To me, this looks like a simple example of a remote viewing experiment....

I have edited this link into the first post of this thread...

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the Others recued them, plugged them into the Matrix to entertain their brains while their bodies heal from the crash Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this theory, but some tweaks maybe:

- Can remote viewing go on for such an extended period of time? I guess, obviously, anything's possible, but I thought it was more short-lived. Perhaps a related phenomenon? What about Walt? Is he double-projecting, or has he been maybe taken out of the experiment and is sort of psy-hacking his way back in?

- I think the project in that Dharma still is less remote viewing and more a type of simplified Zener Card Test - there was another X-Files ep where Mulder was doing a blind Zener test and had to point to the place where the star would appear next, or something along those lines. Maybe this is similar?

Here's a test something like it: One-Shot Card Test

Check the out these guys as well.

Hope this helps your theory/enterains you for a bit. I know I play with this stuff all the time. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your input aesutton. As for the time period, I am really not sure, but I cannot imagine any reason why it could not go on for any amount of time.....

Also, thank you for the links, and the one about the Zener Card Test is also about clairvoyancy. Because of this, the Hanso test we are referring to would ba a remote viewing link either way....

Again, thank you for your contribution, I will enjoy reading your links in more detail. Finally, as you are relatively new to the site (and seem to enjoy reading and considering theories), check out the link in my signature if you want to see some of the theories which are circulating the forum.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I just rewatched the pilot (thanks to iTunes) and I'm totally in love with this theory now, J-a-o...especially the first few minutes, when Jack wakes up on the tranquil beach and it takes a second for the plane/shouting to appear, so to speak....very in tune with your theory, i'm into it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh... no
Didn't the producers say that the show wasn't all in someones head? That no one is going to wake it and it was all a dream? Also all this remote viewing stuff sounds a lot like day dreaming to me. Having an imagination doesn't mean you are pyshic. Sorry I don't buy this theory.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's interesting...I really hope you're wrong as this ending would suck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, I hope that I am wrong too (because it would spoil the show), but I still like this as a theory, as I tend to only believe theories if they are scientifically possible....

I don't really like all of the fate etc. ideas, although if enough evidence is there, I will consider any theory....

And Spire, I am not sure if the writers have disproved this theory or not, but even if they have, I don't believe the writers when they disprove theories. If someone correctly guesses an aspect of the show, they are not going to admit it....

Thank you for bringing that up though, I will have a look at the disproved theories sticky to see if you are right! Very Happy
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