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Daimler-Chrysler=Cool Lost Newbie
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 3 Location: My own personal hatch.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: Three theories I have about Lost |
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These are three theories I have, that I think are true:
1.) Michael, Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, and Kate have a backup plan against the others, and Michael's not leaving the island just yet.
Reasons why:
a.) When Jack confronts Michael in front of everyone in the jungle after Sawyer shoots the others, we can already see that Jack is pretty mad and has known Michael is double-crossing them all along. After that exchange, Jack says he has a plan, and after Sawyer says 'What plan?' it cuts to Sun, Jin, and Sayid on the boat, leading us to believe that they are in fact the only part of the plan. Also, if there was a perfect time to come up with a new plan involving Michael, the twenty-or-some-such minute break between this and the next scene involving all of them would be it.
b.) After the group finds the tube pipe from the Pearl and they find they're not near the beach, Jack starts yelling at Michael and getting really mad about him double-crossing them and stuff. What I don't get is why he would be so mad at him, given that he already knew that Michael was a traitor before they even left, and confirmed it in the jungle. (Unless of course he figured that just because everyone in their group found out Michael was a traitor in the jungle, he would suddenly do the right thing.) I hope I'm making sense here, it's hard for me to explain. I just think if Jack was already really mad at Michael in the jungle and knew he was a traitor then, why would he suddenly trust him to lead them to the right place after that?
From the Other's standpoint it makes sense that Jack would be pissed at Michael when he finds out he's not leading him to the beach, because up til that point he's trusted Michael (As they think), but from a viewer's standpoint it doesn't make so much sense. I hope I'm making sense. . . .
c.) Lastly, when Michael is riding away in the boat with Will, he and Jack meet glances kinda obviously. While this really looks like a guilt-ridden shot from Michael and a disappointed gaze from Jack, I think it could very well be a 'secret plan glance', mostly because of this next thing I'll say: When Hurley is told to leave, he gives Jack a kind of questioning 'is this okay' glance, which makes sense even if they have no working plan. However, after that, when the hoods are about to be put back on, Jack, Kate and Sawyer all look at each other, and these looks aren't exactly 'Oh sh*t' looks of outright panic. They look a lot more like the 'secret plan glances' I mentioned earlier. Also, Kate has a very conspicuous blink that looks a lot like a 'secret plan' look.
I am personally 100% sure that Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and Jack have a backup plan, and am about 55% sure that Michael figures into this. I think that perhaps Michael will head around in the boat to meet up with Sawyer, but will instead encounter Sun and Jin first, however I can't be sure about this.
Okay I just read this thing about the actor that plays Michael is no longer under contract for Lost and will not be in the next season (Supposedly) So, uh, I really have no idea about Michael being involved in the plan thing. . . . . .
2.) The Pearl station does have a purpose, even if it's not observing the Swan station. Reasons why:
a.) The tube discharge thing is really really easy to see, simple to find, and very obvious. If the Pearl was supposed to seem real, they'd find a better hiding place.
b.) The general theme here (With the hatch, with the Pearl, with the Other's hangout) has been making things seem fake, even it's real or serves some other purpose. Many efforts have been made to make the hatch's purpose ambigous. Whoever's set this thing up seems to like making people unsure of their job.
c.) I don't know what the Pearl's for, but some theories say that Locke and/or Eko will go to the Pearl to get a replacement computer/computer parts. This isn't entirely a theory, but I was thinking it would be cool if when Locke, Eko, or whoever went to the Pearl, and found a second countdown started or summing. Iono. I do think pressing the 'system failure' switch makes the Pearl important, but I'm not sure how now.
3.) Whatever is happening on the Island, huge/catastrophic are not happening to the world outside. (Apocalypse or whatever.)
a.) If you go to the Oceanic Airlines site (http://www.oceanic-air.com), they have a news note about the crash of the airline. How would they have this if the world is dead or something. Not really proof at all, as the world could be blown up later, but I think it points in the direction of what i'm trying to say. Also, there are so many references to this being in the real world, like interviews, Bad Twin, news reports, etc, that I don't think the world blowing up would be part of a viable storyline involving the real world.
I know these theories will probably be disproven or whatever, just putting them out there. And also I know that other people have probably come up with the same things, so feel free to yell at me if I'm un-original.
And also feel free to give any opinions on these theories you might have . . . . _________________ I tried to type in Dharma as my screen name, but it was taken. |
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themetroid1 Lost Expert
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 278 Location: in my happy place
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Lastly, when Michael is riding away in the boat with Will, he and Jack meet glances kinda obviously. While this really looks like a guilt-ridden shot from Michael and a disappointed gaze from Jack, I think it could very well be a 'secret plan glance' |
Actually, the glance from Jack to Michael looked more like an "f-u" look.
And the look from Michael looked like an "i'm sorry" look.
| Quote: | | I don't know what the Pearl's for, but some theories say that Locke and/or Eko will go to the Pearl to get a replacement computer/computer parts. |
Wow, great idea. |
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Agent Dale Cooper One of Them

Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 4529 Location: Way down below the ocean (where I long to be)
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| I think its just the monitor thats busted |
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adam_n_eve I turned the key
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 2267 Location: Brum UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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ok so the guy who plays michael isnt contracted.
is the kid who plays walt?
I know they were having probs with both of them aging prematurely but if walt is written out of the prog on this basis im gutted as he was a central character for so long and it's not even as if he 'goes out with a bang' more a whimper  _________________ my simple theory
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StKos Lost Addict
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | 2.) The Pearl station does have a purpose, even if it's not observing the Swan station. Reasons why:
a.) The tube discharge thing is really really easy to see, simple to find, and very obvious. If the Pearl was supposed to seem real, they'd find a better hiding place. |
The tube drop is either an obvious red herring or the set design people really arfed up. Note the double 90 degree turns. There is no way one of the carrier tubes would make those turns. It might be something to throw the losties off the fact that Pearl is important. |
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condog Lost Expert
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 366 Location: Chillin With Some Natty Ice
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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how can a blink be "secret plan" ... i have a gesture thats secret plan to ... its when i wave my arms in the air and say oh **** they gonna clone us _________________ condog blows kisses to all.
"Wait a minute... There's a SKATE!!!Copyright condog 2007 |
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obsessed Lost Junkie
Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 69 Location: The Hydra
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: re: Three theories/Michael's contract |
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It is possible that they did any ending/flashback shots that involved Michael during this season.
I remember feeling that when I saw Kate's glance at Jack that it was like a 'do or die" look. |
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shaun.evans1 Lost Expert
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 270 Location: Telford,England
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| this is a good idea but im not sure whether they a secret plan as the next season we are meant to find out more about the others |
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jcjennie DHARMA Initiate

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 3016 Location: I can turn up whenever I want to, like Jacob. And Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| themetroid1 wrote: | Actually, the glance from Jack to Michael looked more like an "f-u" look.
And the look from Michael looked like an "i'm sorry" look.
| Yes, and I think Michael's expression also said he would do it all again - he was convinced he had done the right thing. _________________
"Because he's the only one who will have me."
"Ben, you never cease to amaze me." |
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EXECUTE. Lost is my Life
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 561 Location: Guys...where are we?
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Love this thread.
If it turns out to be that they do have a plan, bravo.
I hope they do.  _________________
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ntooks Lost Aficionado
Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 160 Location: Fortress of Solitude
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I totally forgot that Jack said I have a plan and then the story cut to the boat w/Sayid, Sun & Jin. You may have a point that Jack devised a plan during that time. I hope so.
But I really think the look between Jack and Kate was of a romantic nature. If there was a plan, why did Sawyer look confused or jealous about the looks between Jack and Kate?
I think next season will begin w/Jack, Kate and Sawyer held captive. We'll learn more about Fenry and Alex. The beached Losties will have to come after the doc, Kate and Sawyer. Just my 2 cents. _________________
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LostFan108 Lost is my Life
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: The Flame
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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thats what my dad thinks, he thinks pretty much exactly what u said i*n the first post,* but he does think that zeke is kelvin and kelvin isnt dead even tho i keep telling him he is dead and its to dif actors but he comes up wit more theories but he wont listen, but any way tht is a good theory _________________ Season One- Lost at its Best |
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FaileGaidin Lost Newbie
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I LIKE the idea of them having a secret plan. I too had forgotten about Jack saying "I have a plan." (Side note - it would be great if the second season could just be out NOW) Anyway...When I first watched the finale, I thought that Jack and Kate's look was just an "OMG, we might die, I totally love you" kind of thing and Sawyer was looking at them like "WTF?!" But I can see how the looks could be construed differently as well.
I have trouble believing that the three of them (Kate, Jack and Sawyer) would walk in knowing what they did of Michael without SOME kind of plan. |
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doctor hanso Scion of Hanso

Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 9658 Location: Planet Claire
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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i dont know if im just horribly detached emotionally or if im just dead on the inside, but i never really get gooey about the so-called "romantic" scenes in the show... such as the Jack and Kate stare in the finale
So of course being dead and withered on the inside, i saw that scene in more practical terms. Kate and Jack have a plan, but Sawyer (for whatever reason... perhaps theyve sussed him out as a "mole" like end of Season Michael?) wasnt let in on it. The blink just seemed as if Kate was telling Jack "Im ready when you are" due to their setting up a signal earlier on. Its how Kate knew to pay attention and watch out for "Others" when they were going to the camp, she and Jack had discussed it and she knew they were being led into a trap. Take note, it wasnt as if she were merely being cautious, she reacted to their being followed defensively (shoot to kill and ask questions later)
She and Jack have a plan... but the question is, why wasnt Sawyer let in on it? Did Jack (and/or Kate) decide he couldnt be trusted in an anti-Others plan? _________________
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galdino I am Him

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 6683 Location: No topics or posts met your search criteria
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| doctor hanso wrote: | i dont know if im just horribly detached emotionally or if im just dead on the inside, but i never really get gooey about the so-called "romantic" scenes in the show... such as the Jack and Kate stare in the finale
So of course being dead and withered on the inside, i saw that scene in more practical terms. Kate and Jack have a plan, but Sawyer (for whatever reason... perhaps theyve sussed him out as a "mole" like end of Season Michael?) wasnt let in on it. The blink just seemed as if Kate was telling Jack "Im ready when you are" due to their setting up a signal earlier on. Its how Kate knew to pay attention and watch out for "Others" when they were going to the camp, she and Jack had discussed it and she knew they were being led into a trap. Take note, it wasnt as if she were merely being cautious, she reacted to their being followed defensively (shoot to kill and ask questions later)
She and Jack have a plan... but the question is, why wasnt Sawyer let in on it? Did Jack (and/or Kate) decide he couldnt be trusted in an anti-Others plan? |
99% agree, cause I think Sawyer's on the plan too
the stare never seemed romantic to me
it was exactly like you said Doc
maybe I'm also dead inside but that was the first thing I've thought when I watched the scene _________________
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