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The Careful Observations Thread
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Are many(not all) of the production & continuity errors deliberate ?
Yes, there are too many not to be.
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Maybe, just a few are deliberate but most are not.
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No Way, PE & CE errors have nothing to do with Lost.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject: The Careful Observations Thread Reply with quote



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Statement
Welcome to the Careful Observations Thread
A collection of Lost Continuity Issues, Production Errors, and other Observations.
I think that many of the things listed within this thread
are Clues-These clues may have been staring us in the face,
yet we miss or choose to Ignore them......
Production Errors will get listed due to the nature of this threads content
but I feel there are too many "odd" things going on for them all to be PE
Which are Clues? Which are Blunders ?
Decide for yourself
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Personal View
I think many things within this thread Hint @ Mulitpal Time/Reality and/or manipulated/alterd memorie's.
We the Viewer's are seeing event's from more than one Reality/Story,
spliced together to look like just one.
©SpOOky June 2006


Lost presents this by telling a story with various Flavours
Example:

1st Story

Clothing, Dialogue, Props, Time of day, Extras, Size, Colours, Injuries, Personalities.
2nd Story
Clothing, Dialogue, Props, Time of day, Extras, Size, Colours, Injuries, Personalities
3rd Story
Clothing, Dialogue, Props, Time of day, Extras, Size, Colours, Injuries, Personalities
Each story (Timeline/Reality) has its own flavour.

Lost take's segments from each story and tells the same story...but with various flavours
Clothing, Dialogue, Props, Time of day, Extras, Size, Colours, Injuries, Personalities


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Links to some of my other posts
Desmond’s Foresight
The Smokie Whale Connection
Vincent’s Diary
Wash your Hands
Degroot
Help - Whoosh!
Why Hurley was on the list
Heroe's & Lost: Connection
Charlies Ring: Monster Connection
Carnivale Connections
Lost & Planet of the Apes-Connections
Lost & Donnie Darko-Connections
Jacob - Vision
Lost-Imagination Manifested
Bioelectric Magnetic Energy
How When & Why Flight-815 Crashed
Magic Number Three
TiME Theory
The Skeleton Key & Lost
The Island & The Future
Lost - The Next Generation
Lost & Vanilla Sky-Connections
Desmons Flash's Explained
Lost - 'Ho Ho Ho' Theory
Si-Fi - The Long Con
Continuity Blogspot


The Lost Effect

Man Of Science to Man of Faith


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Careful Observation's
Carful Observations DC
Lost Little Britian
Lostauk Project
Lost Loops
Lost Slammed
Hear a strange sound
Donnie Vs Lost
The Answer's (Re-Cut)
Lost Rolled
Lost POTA
Lost Trek
Blink
Lost Circles
Desmond & the Tardis Station
Life Extension Project
Destination Unkown
FIND815
Quantum Lost
Locke'd
4th Dimensional Desmond
Lost...SpOOkymix
Once Lost ... Now Found(Lost Grace)




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Who is SpOOky ?


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¿ L O S T -------------------Weird Occurences/Coincidences?



Special Thank's to LillyFan07
For her help in the Re-contruction of this thread



Note: Most of my Original Posts have now been edited for navigational reasons


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff waiting to be Placed



In the episode when Eko takes Locke to Look for The Pearl Station we see them outside at Night.
Then In the Hatch Kate tells that It will take some time for them to Pick up Henrys trail Because its Dark.
Then Jack tells Sawyer He needs the heroin and tells Kate to go with Him, They leave to go fetch the heroin from Sawyers stash, But Its daylight, So either the Hatch is a Very Very long way from the beach Or something Is not right.
They made a point twice of telling us Its night time But Then suddenly Its daytime Question




Reversed frames


Rooms the same But not the same

Hurley photo Day/Night


Letters on plane, Big Black/Small White


Ecko's Mole on his Lip


Nurse Missing Mole and Necklace


This Nurse Also apears in season 3 ep 1 with jack when he Hears his farther get a call to his MoBile.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spooky, it sounds interesting and maybe lends some weight to the theory that the island is messing with their collective consciousness, but I can't get the thing to play. Maybe others are having similar trouble? Can you find another link to the same clip??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds of an airport but no pic
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really can't see your point here. There's extras standing still or walking in circles.

Where's the "huge mistake" in that shot?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got picture, im in the uk if that makes any difference
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

extras are hired to walk around take after take after take. There's no mysterious reason there... just something that occurs during filming.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw - my previous post was not trying to shoot you down...

it's people like you who comb over every detail that gives me the easy job of just coming here and reading about it.

keep up the good work. : )
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audio Change's

Pilot episode Part 1

Jack flashback:
FLIGHT ATTENDANT: "Ladies and gentlemen, the Pilot has switched on the fasten seatbelt signs. Please return to your seats and fasten your seatbelts".


Pilot Part 2
Previously on Lost
"Ladies and gentlemen,Please fasten you seatbelt's"


Charlie flashback:
FLIGHT ATTENDANT: "Ladies and gentlemen, the Captain has turned on the fasten seatbelt signs. Please return to your seats and fasten your seatbelts".


Kate flashback:
FLIGHT ATTENDANT: "Ladies and gentlemen, the Captain has switched on the fasten seatbelt signs. Please return to your seats and fasten your seatbelts".


Should'nt the events all have the same audio if we are seeing only one planecrash ?
This may be one of the 1st signs that Lost is showing Multipal timeline's

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Pilot Part 2 Previously on Lost segment


Scene: Boone and shannon:
Claire says "Did anybody see that"
Boone and shannon are Looking to their Right and Booone gets Up and walks to His Right

In the Original they were Looking Left and Boone got up and walked to his Left (This scene has been inverted)



Scene: Charlie and Kate
Charlie come's out of the Toilet
Kate "What are you doing in the bathroom"
Charlie "What"
Monster sound and they Both look Left

The Monster sound they hear Has completly Changed and is Not the same.



This scene shows that way back when they aired the Very first Previously On lost segment
they had already decided to do the strange editing things they would continued to do through-out Lost.

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Thought's
Differant Versions of Audio recorded and used might suggest several simalar but differant events.

Why would they waist time to mess around with the POL segment,
Its just to remind us what happened last time, Is'nt it ?
It makes No sence to Invert one of the scenes and change the audio of another.

This is the first example but not the last of Previously on lost segements being edited and Audio changes aswell as Inverted & edited audio clips.


























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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything could be true.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: SpOOky's - Possible Big Find ? Reply with quote

SpOOky wrote:
even the Guy(orange shirt) and lady(yellow top) are in same place and the guy has magazine in his hands, In second shot he still has it But lady takes it from him.


hey spOOk, I cant get the clip, but I think it is my computer.

Are the man and woman you are referring to here a tad snooty-looking, snobbish?

Is it a magazine? Or the manuscript we have all been speculating about?

The manuscript is all white with gold binder clips holding it together. And there is some writing on the first page that is too hard to read. And the snobby-looking woman is holding it.

Is this what is in the clip?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun & Jins Bathroom scene


EP6-House of the Riseing Sun
Jin come's home with Blood on his hands and shirt.
Sun Follows him to the bathroom and asks questions.

EP17-In Translation
We see why Jin came home with Blood On him, And we see the Bathroom scene for the second time.

Most of the scene is Identical Except It has been chopped up and re-arranged. And some things Just don’t happen The second time.

Below is an Animation showing the start of the Bathroom scene.
Top (Rising sun)
Bottom (In Translation)
Its a fairly large animation I suggest you "Right click save as"
Sun & Jin Bathroom Slide’s
No explanation Needed, I think you can all see this One clearly for yourselves.
Here are the 2 scenes so you can see Im not just making things up.
Rising sun
In Translation


Another Thing The 2 bathroom scene Episodes have In common
In Both those episodes Jin and Michael have a fight
In the 1st Jin beats up Michael
In the 2nd Michael beats up Jin.
Both episodes have a bathroom scene and a fight scene
But Both are differant.
(possible 2 running timelines ?)




Airport scene with Sun & Jin.

Watch Sun as the camera pans.
Sun stands alone Looking across at Jin, preparing herself to leave him.
Behind her a Woman (Blue Dress)
followed By a Black woman(Purple top) & Man(suit)
all walk past Sun from Left to right while A man (shorts purple top)walks Right to left.
All walk past sun.
(Fast walking Blue dress woman and Purple top man walk completely out of shot)

Camera swaps To close up of Sun.
We see Sun still looking at Jin then look away.
behind Sun we see again the Blue dress Woman
followed by purple top man, Purple top woman & suit Man.

The odd thing about this scene is the repeated extras are doing the same thing
Except the purple top guy who is now walking the opposite direction

Here is a Movie clip of the scene Movie Clip
Everyone eles stood around sun is in exactly the Same place In Both Camera Shots. So clearly they Went to the effort of Setting that scene up with peoples positions In mind.

Watch the clip a few times and Look at all the Little Details that are the same in both shots. Im sure we are supossed to notice that Purple top Guy

Thease screen's should help Point things out in more detail
Image 1
Image 2
Image 3
Image 4

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After the Above Mentioned scene We get a long close up look at Sun
showing her sadness.

After some time she Looks Over at Jin. In the background is the same purple top guy stood with the trolly again. Talking to another guy.
Then the Camera Cuts to Sun who is still looking across at jin and Instantly The same Guy Walks Right Behind her
Then the camera looks back at Jin & hes still behind him
Then he is again seen behind Sun, But walking the other way, Just as he did earlier in the scene above.


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Other stuff

Suns flower-becomes Flower's
Suns has One then Two flowers



Michael is Not
Is
Is Not
Is Wearing the watch Jin attacked him for having

Michael Is Not wearing this watch In Most of the fight scene

Another Previously on Lost Edit.

This S1 Previously on Lost segment is very different to the Original
(But it could be due to trying to shorten it)
One part of it Michaels hand is not doing the same thing.
So I thought I would post it Just in case there is more to it than just a shortening.
Original Ep 4
Going off, away, to a hunt and err I I I was wondering if you, if if you
vs
Previously on Lost Ep 6
Going off, away, to a hunt and err I was wondering if you

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, SpOOK, look at my post, please, if this is what the clip is, yes it is very important.
I still cant see the clip, but it is my computer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know where you're coming from. I'll try to put this in the nicest way I can, but I completely disagree. Lost is just a TV show. They are succeptable to mistakes as well. The link in my sig will take you to a site that has 200+ Lost mistakes listed. Get out your DVDs from season 1, write down a few good mistakes, and take a look for yourself.

I say continuity error, but hey, that's just me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1X15-Homecoming

This One is Not as clear, It is quite well hidden. and it could be Just a Production Error
1X15
7:07- Charlie is watching a woman In a busy Bar We see the woman moving to the right and to her left we see a man moving same direction,Pink?? Jumper, White shirt and black tie.
7:12-The woman Joins her friends and The WSBT(White shirt black tie guy) now walking Infront of her close to the camera
7:17- Camera cuts to charlie Who is Looking to his left at the woman so The guy should be heading In charlies general direction, And yes there he is walking behind charlie. and he walks right past him and away out of shot. (Nothing strange there)
7:25- Camera has cut from charlie back the the woman and Holly batman How did he get there again. Wink


There are alot of Extra In the bar But again we see a guy In a place he should not be
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