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The Great Secret French Theory
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Lautréamont
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: The Great Secret French Theory Reply with quote

The healing island sounds like a novel by René Barjavel, Le grand secret (the great secret).
It tells the story of a very specific virus which actually heals people. The virus kills all the other deseases and stops your growth at your maturation level (same with plants and animals). So you're virtually immortal except if you're deadly injured.

In the novel, people from all over the world who got that "sickness" are all gathered on an island where they live in some kind of a Golden Age utopia. Governments of the world agree not to let people go out of the island. Because if they did they coul infect the whole world which would soon be over-populated and people would starve.

So could be the Lost island that kind of island with some kind of a healing virus ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow

thats kinda amazing, and makes so so so much sense all things considered.

brilliant catch Very Happy


*more thoughts after coffee
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty sick..... but wh ythe kidnappings? Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blueaznmonkey wrote:
That's pretty sick..... but wh ythe kidnappings? Shocked



No idea. Probably for a scientifical purpose.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blueaznmonkey wrote:
That's pretty sick..... but wh ythe kidnappings? Shocked


maybe to innoculate the children against the "virus"... I dunno, its possible that in babies or children such a thing could be lethal

and when it comes to kidnapping Walt, im in the crowd that thinks its to keep Michael and such from attemtping to leave the Island again... maybe
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - keep the people on the island....

You know - a LOT of the characters depend on being on that island..... I guess the ones who don't NEED to be there need to be given a /reason/ to stay....

I dig that....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blueaznmonkey wrote:
Yeah - keep the people on the island....

You know - a LOT of the characters depend on being on that island..... I guess the ones who don't NEED to be there need to be given a /reason/ to stay....

I dig that....


Ooo, thats a really groovy thought, i hadnt quite deciphered it in my own head that way but it makes a good amount of sense

so then the question is: Who else was "given" something by the Island, and who else needs to be forced into staying?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if the virus stops your maturation at whatever point you're at, they probably want to inoculate the kids and babies so that they won't stay children or infants forever--so that they'll be able to grow up. If the vaccine needs booster shots every few years, as many do, then whenever the kids are full-grown, they can stop inoculating them and allow them to be infected.

I was wondering myself the other night why they had to be so worried about a "sickness" if the island is so good at healing people.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh wait, were you saying that it stops aging once you mature, not at whatever point you're at at the time you're infected? Sorry, think I misunderstood!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually in the novel the virus makes the groth of anything living at maturation, that is right after puberty for human being. For people infected when grown-up, they stay at their actual age and don't get any older.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have already done a lot of forcing.... or a lot of motivation manipulation.... And a lot of characters depend on the island for physiological reasons....

Jack saw his father

Hurley and Libby were brought together (And they /sort/ of depend on each other)

Locke can walk again

Rose is cancer-free (and that makes it so Bernard has to stay)

Sun can now have a baby (whether or not it's Jin's is yet to be determined but Jin has to stay and father it anyway)

Danielle (and whoever she's with) needs to find Alex

Michael (if that's reeeelly him) needs to rescue Walt

The annoying science teacher had to get blown up for the enjoyment of all

..... Kate?

Anyway: There's also people who have indirectly been given a reason to stay.

Charlie, a washed up rockstar, kicked his addiction there with, as Locke puts it, the help of the island.

Ecko found righteousness there

Claire had her baby there and the baby was "vaccinated"

Ana Lucia got to kill the annoying ritch-witch (Shannon =)

And unfortuantely for Sayid.... his love life /was/ a reason to stay but as stated above, AL got trigger happy

... I dunno.... I suppose this whole idea of motives to /stay/ on the island only really works if the other forty-some losties (who don't do JACK SQUAT) also have motives to stay =P

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

positively brilliant, Lautréamont!

it would make a ton of sense... everyone has been "given" something, no?\

Sun & Jin = baby
Rose & Bernie = health
Locke = legs
Charlie = health
Eko = salvation
Hurley = Libby
Lbby = sanity?
Jack = closure?
Kate = ?
Sawyer = ?
Danielle = baby?
Michael = Walt?


edit - beat me to it, blue! Mad Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Blue Monkey strikes again!!!

But yes you're spot on. And I kind of see a connection between a few losties who sort of look at the island as a source for figuring out truth...like absolute truth.... life liberty and the pursuit of happiness truth....

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blueaznmonkey wrote:
They have already done a lot of forcing.... or a lot of motivation manipulation.... And a lot of characters depend on the island for physiological reasons....

Jack saw his father

Hurley and Libby were brought together (And they /sort/ of depend on each other)

... I dunno.... I suppose this whole idea of motives to /stay/ on the island only really works if the other forty-some losties (who don't do JACK SQUAT) also have motives to stay =P

Blessings


Im really not sure about the Jack bit... but thats half the reason i look at him a bit suspiciously. I mean, seeing his father is hardly reason for him to stay, so of anybody, whats he getting out of this. And ive always found it severely odd that he above anyone always seemed to push to build a society. Not "push" maybe, but he has always seemed to steer things in that direction

Hurley on the other hand you just pegged... Hes now been put in the position of believing off the Island, he might not ever get a girl such as Libbie. So so far, thats a very large handful of "Island Devotees"

i wonder if thats how "Others" are built...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Jack seeng his dad...odd reason to stay.

But! Jack staying for Kate?.... I know I would =)

Anyway - Jack is, next to Kate, the most suspicious character in my book. Like he knows something that nobody else knows, and as he is used to doing, keeps it all a secret.

His personality, however, leads me to believe that he isn't a bad person, he just knows stuff and doesn't want hysteria to break out or something...

Either way, Kate is the only thing I can see Jack getting out of this ordeal.... He finds someone that can jive with his personality and help get rid of the thoughts that have been plaguing him.

What about Sawyer though? He really doesn't seem to get much out of this, save for a bunch of people to mess with. Sawyer /was/ the first person to start pointing fingers after the crash in season one (but he's just like that...)
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