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Dhamurian Society

The Dhamurian Society of Australia http://www.dhamurian.org.au/



(Compared to Dharma symbol)

Whose motto is

D = Dedication through Loyalty
H = Honesty through Truth
A = Accomplishment through Mastery
M = Morality through Sincerity
U = Understanding through Knowledge
R = Research through Sharing
I = Idealism through Unity
A = Achievement through persistence
N = Nurturing through Determination
The aims of this society are :

· To establish an informative data based resource society for the shared knowledge, teachings, and understandings of ancient cultural concepts, mysticisms, lifestyles, modern teachings and crafts.

· To establish an informative data based resource society for the recording, investigative, photographic and documentative research into unexplained phenomenon and wildlife, astrological and earthly events.

· To establish an informative data based resource society for the mythological, photographic, and documentative research evidences into Australia's unrecognised ancient histories, seafaring discoverers and other visitors of influence; the origins and purpose of such activities; and restoration and/or preservation of historical sites and relics pertaining to such discoveries.

· To establish a universal spiritual atmosphere of good relationships by promoting non-political, non-racial, non-sectarian, non-religious harmony through friendly interchanges of social, educational, and communal activities of mutual benefit to both members and the Society.


· To establish a complex of facilities that will preserve the educational resources of the Society; benefit the members and the community as a whole; and to create opportunities for tourism ventures for the dissemination of information.

The Dharmurian Society recently started excavating a site on in Gympie, Queensland, Australia. The site for excavation is a pyramid .

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Gympie Pyramid Mystery/ Queensland, Australia

Information on the gympie pyramid.

http://www.gympiepyramid.org/index.html

Some odd sites in Queensland, Australia in addition to the 'pyramid' include:

1- Carvings were found on rocks that looked like Egyptian hieroglyphs.

2- In the 1930’s an old crumbling human skeleton was found in a sandstone crevice in a deep rock shelter hidden in the mountains.

3-A Spanish Galleon was found on North Stradbroke Island in 1892 and rediscovered in 1922 and now lost again.

There is also an island right off the coast of Queensland called Magnetic Island.



“The island was first discovered by Captain Cook who called it Magnetical Island because he believed that the ores on the island had affected his compass.”

Information on Walkabout on ‘Magnetic Island’.

http://www.walkabout.com.au/locations/QLDMagneticIsland.shtml

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Oceanic Religion and Egypt

Oceanic religions are those associated with the Pacific Islanders and Australia. These religions include Australian Aboriginal mythology . The Aboriginal mythology is embraced by the Dhamurian Society of Australia and is the focus of many of their interests. The Dhamurian Society is working hard to find a connection between Australia and the Egyptians, claiming that there are pyramids in Australia. There are many others who believe this claim. The following URL is one person who subscribes to the idea that Australia and Egypt are linked.

http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptaustralia.html

The Dharmurian Society bought the land next to the Gympie and is now shrouded in secrecy trying to solve this mystery. They have involved researchers and scientists from around the world to assist them:
http://www.gympiepyramid.org/project.html

Of course, they are also conducting a geo-magnetic survey of the land.

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Rainbow Serpent

These people who may subscribe to the ‘Oceanic’ aboriginal beliefs, also believe in the Rainbow Serpent, an Australian Aboriginal Myth. The Rainbow Serpent was said to have created the Earth during ‘dreamtime’.

http://www.nlc.org.au/html/abt_rainbow.html

http://www.ozbird.com/oz/OzCulture/images/aboriginal/dreaming/

The rainbow serpent hides in water holes and is associated with dreaming. It is an amorphous serpent-like being, sometimes depicted as shadows and other times as many colors.


One depiction of the rainbow serpent.

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Aboriginal Walkabout

A walkabout is a way to renew your spiritual health by wandering through the woods and allowing something more to guide you back home. ‘The walker finds his way, it is believed, under the guidance of a spiritual power.’ http://www.november.org/razorwire/rzold/03/0313.html
But it is more than that; a walkabout is a way to learn about your beliefs, to hear stories of the rainbow serpent and other blessed spirits.

http://www.blessingscornucopia.com/Shamanism_Shaman_Shamanic_Journey_Healing_Aboriginal_Walkabout_Journeying.htm
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The Game

At the end of the movie "The Game" Michael Douglas, who plays a man (Nicholas) who was just subjected to a very intricate game, asks the blonde (whom this gaming company employs) where she was going for the next game.

She replied "Australia."

According to a published transcript, although she pretended her name is Christine, it was actually Claire.



In the movie, there is a Virgin Mary statue holding liquor and Nicholas says at one point: I'm pulling back the curtain. I want to meet the wizard.

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In Summation

Recent episodes have alluded to a conspiracy and the writers have said ‘If it’s an island’ when they refer to Lost. In my mind, Lost is an elaborate game set in Australia, perhaps even on an island like Magnetic Island, in one of the reserves. Like ‘The Village’ the Lost people do not know they are so close to civilization because a society like Dharma or the ‘Dhamarians’ forbids normal transportation in and around the location on the island. In the show ‘Lost’ Dharma has unlimited resources, time, and smarts.

In this scenario, Locke is still aware of the elaborate ‘game’ and has been given a task of winning the acceptance of a group of religious Oceanic Aboriginal Buddhists. (A little different than the typical Oceanic religions, but not entirely different since Buddhism has spread in Australia like wildfire.) Locke has not yet been deemed ‘good’ until he has proven himself worthy.
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[ashugart]

[mostlost]

Yes, I did. That is why I deleted the entire thing before you posted but apparently, you got it anyway.

ash,

If you are going to be literal on this, it is not going to work. I am not saying that anyone is playing 'Jack'.
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[PubClear]

I think the producers like to toy with people like us...haha.

This is very cool though
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[mostlost]

Yes, I think they do, PubClear.

I think some of their very fertile imaginations definitely rested on Australia and some of their folklore/mythology.
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[Lost Oustandingly Superio]

Either you're really really creative with these theories, or you're really good at making bogus things up. If it's not an Island, when they hit high ground why could they not see civilization? Why on the raft could they see the Island and no mainland? Magnetic Island based on that map is way too close to the mainland. Dharma and Dharmurian may be connected somewhat, but perhaps not. As for "The Game" a great movie based on a great story, think I read it in high school years and years ago, can't think of the author, Claire and Australia are very likely just coincidence.
The idea of a shield protecting the island from being spotted via sattelite doesn't explain why it's still visible on the raft, unless they never passed the sheild.
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[Agent Palmer]

Good theory with some fresh ideas woven into it. All recently posted theories seem like re-treds of other existing theories. Your's is fresh at least. Your introduction of the Dharmurian Society/Australia and Magnetic Island into Lost Theory is a nice (and plausible) change.

Also, the producers have stated that Dharma is an acronym for something... and Dharmurian is also an acronym. And it's totally plausible for their acronym to be similar:

D= Dedication through Loyalty
H = Honesty through Truth
A = Accomplishment through Mastery
R= Research through Sharing
M= Morality through Sincerity
A = Achievement through persistence

... better than anything doyasmellwhatIsteppdin has come up with...
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"I'm tied to a tree on mystery Island and I just got tortured by a damn spinal surgeon and a genuine Iraqi- of course I'm serious..."

[gza]

The ammount of connection that you were able to come up with is kind of scaring the $#!% out of me.
That island seems like a more like place than any other to be the location of the show.
The rainbow serpent could be our smoke monster. think about that whole dream thing...
The heiroglyphs, the ruins, the spanish galeon. All of that fits.

the only thing that doesnt fit is the location...
theres no way that the losties wouldnt have seen mainland Australia if they were that close. Michael and the other "raftees" would have seen it. The tallies would have seen it (since they started off on the other side of the island), or Danielle would have seen it (shes probably been just about everywhere on that island by now.

I'm sure that the writers drew heavily from all of this while planning the show, but i dont think it takes place anywhere near that location.

I also dont agree with your whole "game" idea but you did make some strong points there.

That just seems to simple for this show. Dharma has brought them there for some reason much more important than some "game".

Love the info about the serpent, and the galeon, and the heiroglyphs etc. Also the name of that group: Dhamurian. pretty similar to Dharma.

Ill bet that the writers took these ideas and moved them to an island far, far awy from civilization. Somewhere around the coordiantes found using "the numbers". Hopefully we'll find out soon why Dharma brought them there.

Great find. its refreshing to read new theories like this.

[gza]

sry for the dbl post

[unionx]

You can't be serious, no way
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[tatu]

Awsome new theory most...I like it. I'm going to go over it again...but wow.
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[Lost in Pooh]

There is a lot of research information here. Can you post us a little more of something involving our Losties, others, Dharma, etc? I see you've got Locke in there as the 'contestant', but I want more!!!

[Caligula]

Mostlost... very impressive work, as always. I think that a lot of this fits into the theories that make the most sense (to me) and explains a lot more about where they may be, and why they may be there.

Particularly, this information seems to elucidate who the Others/Dharma are and/or what their purpose may be. The Others are simply members of Dharma who are doing 'research' on the island - research toward some sort of enlightenment (or Utopia). In this research they try to determine the scientific reasons for metaphysical/religious/spriritual, etc concepts. For example, what makes up someone's 'spirit' psychologically, electromagnetically, etc. This seems to basically be what 'Dharmurians' are about, as you said.

Scientifically, Dharma needs to do three basic things: describe these concepts, explain these concepts, and predict/put into action these concepts. Let's make a big assumptions and say that Dharma's earlier decades of research has led to a number of theories and a number of experiments, finally resulting in an ultimate experiment (i.e. prediction/putting into action) of these theories and hypotheses. I tend to believe that individually this is for some sort of spiritual enlightenment, and collectively this is form some sort of Utopia.

One may draw from this line of reasoning that 'the incident' was a failure, for whatever reason, of their previous attempt to put these theories into action/their first attempt at their 'ultimate experiment.' Why did this experiment fail? Maybe an individual couldn't reach the proper point, maybe the society as a whole did not function properly - maybe the theories needed to be refined, or maybe the population for the experiment needed to be refined. That is, some people were inherently bad and did not succeed, while those who were basically good were able to succeed. Or maybe good people needed to be trained in one way (so they were taken by Dharma and hence the lists), while the not-so-good people needed to be trained (or 'find a point in life where they were eligable for enlightenment') in a different manner. Necessarily, the greater aspiration of Dharma is to make the whole world a utopia-like society; thus, the island is a microcasm of the world/what Dharma ultimately wants.

Assuming everything so far (which admittedly is quite a leap), then we have two levels going on - the struggle for Dharma and its ideas to succeed at all, and the struggle for Dharma to expand its ideas. First to the success of these ideas:

What's taking place is a final experiment in Dharma's ideas of utopia and/or enlightenment (in my opinion this does not involve any specific psychology (or other) research for the sake of knowledge, but rather is primarily to see if their theories/ideas/experiment works or not - that is... can we get people to become enlightened, can we create a wonderful society?). Is Locke a part of Dharma? I believe that he is actually (see mostlost's Locke theory). Why him, that is, why not a very experienced Dharma researcher or scientist? Locke is someone who is going through a spiritual journey (see: walkabout information) which actually includes 'being able to lead others' as part of it. Another point... I've recently read a lot/researched a lot about the integration of traditionally eastern philosophies into western methods of therapy (e.g. cognitive-behavioral therapy). It is apparent that a therapist or researcher trying to teach others about how to achieve things like 'mindfulness meditation' actually need to be mindful themselves, that is, you cannot teach or instruct an Eastern method unless you're fully experiencing it at the same time. Likewise, the best person to 'lead' the losties on their journey is someone who is going through the same things that they are, not an instructor or researcher.

This is part game, part journey. Why are difficult things happening? Well, partly because there are going to be a number of different things that come up in one's life and/or in society. Even if you're enlightened or in a Utopia, how do you deal with loss, fear, or dissonant elements (i.e. Sawyer)? Locke sees these are twists and turns in the game, but they also have greater implications for a spiritual journey and change, and likewise for Dharma's objectives. To lend a little support for Dharma's ultimate goal and purpose..... It's not the Dharma Research Group, the Dharma Lobbying Group, no, it's the Dharma initiative - they're trying to start something... a world-wide revolution of some sort?

These is where the second-level of things comes in... Dharma's struggle to expand its ideas. If you're going to start any sort of revolution in the world... I'm not just saying... hey, they're going to take over a country, because I don't think it's like that at all, rather it's an ideological revolution of how to see and live life. For example, think of the number of 'books of the bible' that were not cannonized and were instead buried and dismissed by the church; you only need to think of the basic plots of books like "the Da Vinci Code" to understand the possible danger of an idea (or if you want real-life examples... communism, and even democracy). Assuming what we've established that Dharma is about (which again, may be quite a leap, but hey, it's a theory), then it seems apparent that this would necessarily take power from governments. Governments are probably not a big fan of this possibility, so what do they think of the Dharma Initiative? I believe they'll try to destroy it. However the plane crashed safely, however certain people came to be on the island, I believe that the government (or governments may have a hand in this and may try to ruin it... Kate a mole?).

Accordingly, how could any government allow this to go on? I don't think any would, so I believe that the island is just owned by Dharma, though it may be close to Australia, and may indeed by Magnetic Island.... maybe the Australian Government or even the CIA know of this. Pure speculation at this point, but there are a lot of implications to this reasons.

This turned out kind of long. Anyway, good work mostlost!
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[mr. gone]

Wow. By the time you are done, these writers will either have no secrets regarding their inspiration, or you've given them some.

The one thing that universally destroys all Utopian ideas is that they have to be populated with people. It seems our nature that someone always wants to be in charge (Locke, Jack - even though he thinks he didn't want to), someone always wants to have more than the other guy (Sawyer), and someone finds out it isn't going the way they envisioned it and tries to manipulate/change it (Locke?, Kate ?, Gale?).

For any Utopian model to even have a gasp of a chance, you'd think that all participants would have to buy in to the ideal - thus the problem Caligula points out in "taking over a country" or in imposing communism or democracy. Since - as far as we know - none of them (save potentially Locke) has a clue what the ideal is, then who are these other people? Could this island be a control group? When we remove the "good " people (bummer for Ethan), are they promoted to a more difficult game level or given their stipend and sent home or given a W2 and put on payroll?

Is it feasible that the game, then, is the most recent hypothesis developed by the Initiative? If Locke "wins" then the experiment can go forward on a grander scale? If not, then another group is "assembled" with different characteristics?