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[jb_10009]

The hatch is connected to the other hatches and is a huge particle accelerator that uses nuclear powered magnets to get little particles to move really fast. The numbers are a screen setting that defines which particles can get through. The attempt is to isolate quarks. If they can do that, and an awful lot of real life scientists think it is worth any cost to try, then that may allow us to break some natural laws, like breaking the speed of light, moving back in time or isolating anti-matter. The thing about quantum physics is that it relates to human awareness. The act of observing things at that level impacts the things being observed. So having humans type in the numbers puts a variable into the timing that would not be there if a computer just did it. In order to protect the people in isolation from interacting with a world that they may modify, they are told that there is a plague outside and food is dropped with no outside contact. When the particles are released, the transmission is able to influence the past very subtly, because it no longer follows natural laws. Every 108 minutes, all the qualifying particles are in synch and are ready to be filtered and isolated onto the outer track, which is a second giant circle. When the button is pushed, those quarks, defined by the numbers are let through to the transmission track. They are released when the key is turned. The self destruct of the hatch is deliberate, for world safety, so when a signal is recieved, the building of that hatch is subsequently prevented. The numbers tell the electromagnetic field exactly how to modify in order to separate out the particles required. There is symmetry and consistency in these palindromes, because quarks are very symmetrical and consistent, since they are the fundamental building blocks of all things. A receiver has been built in the past to try and receive a signal that is the lottery numbers. What the receiver would detect is that the quarks sent were in the sequence defined by the quark palindromes, but because this is the only sequence that can move backwards in time, it is the only base signal possible. Therefore, the test case planned is to send the lottery numbers in subtle variations of the timing of the signal, but the receiver is stolen, and the thieves don't understand how to use it, and understand the base frequency to be the lottery numbers, so they change the lottery numbers through the police car numbers and the lottery girl fraud to match what the transmitter is saying. Then the radio tower sends the new lottery numbers to the hatch and the hatch sends them to the past, which causes them to come up in the lottery and that causes them to be passed through the radio tower, so the loop stabilizes that way with the lottery numbers being the magic sequence of quarks. That loop also terminates, because the self destruct happens, so only one transmision occurs.

The unstable thing is that they use human consciousness to alter the signals by having people who have "free- will" push the button. That is how they hope to pass subtle variations onto what otherwise would be a perfectly stable signal. Somehow, that is how they hope to use a type of undetectable life force to travel with the quarks. Note that there are 6 quarks and 7 palindromes, one of which is simply "0". If that zero is a spiritual energy, then it may be captured and isolated and in the reverse transmission, reversed to anti-matter. That would create a dark cloud that emits no light and that is drawn to its counter-part, which would be the life force of the people pushing the button. But it would not be able to cancel itself out until the spiritual life force in the original is in balance. It may be able to partly do it. But if there was some gaping powerful hole in the person's spirit that was so dominant and clearly defined by identity, like Echo's brother, then the anti-spirit would not be able to cancel it self out against the true spirit, because the true spirit would be missing the key aspect of its identity. Everything but the dominant ghost (hole) from the person's spirit would dissipate, and only the ghost would remain in its entirety. When Echo forgives himself, for his actions and the effects on his brother, his true brother is with him again and the "evil twin" can grab that and kill off the last of Eko's remaining spirit.

The reason I like this solution is because it shifts all the riddles around so they solve each other, without adding anything new. It is not perfect I am sure, but to me the ultimate in simplicity is not saying common things, but reducing the components to a small number. All these complications were already in the story, I just am arranging them in a way that they fit as a jigsaw puzzle. Granted it borders on the paranormal, but so does quantum mechanics.

The math of this need be no more complex than a diagram that shows the computer binary code of the numbers and isolates the parts that are the same backwards and forwards. Anyone can understand that.

Look, here are the numbers separated by line breaks:

000100
001000
001111
010000
010111
101010

And here is that same sequence, that looped string, with the palindromes separated by line breaks:

000010000
1
0
000
011110
1000001
011110
101

The last digit of the first array is also the first digit in the last array.

It looks like the swan. If the numbers are going into a computer, they go into binary, and everybody knows that. As far as the internet video, I thought the producers said that was a separate story line that is not required for the TV plot. I thought they also said that there were real world scientific explanations for everything on TV. So why is pop science out of bounds?

A much more complete explanation is in this thread:

http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30984

That answers most of the lost riddles with one simple theory, but I'm sure it can be improved and may not be the planned ending anyway. Okay people now, be nice!

[jb_10009]

Please vote.

[Haravikk]

So you're suggesting smokey is a side-effect of this? Not a bad theory, you seem to know the stuff (I can't really comment, I only have a basic understanding of quark level theory).

I think though that the reason they're doing this will be more than purely research though, if all it is research and it's quarks that are doing all of this then I'll be disappointed, but I suspect it may a mean to some specific end.
For example, if you go with the time-travel aspect you mentioned, it could still be related to "The Incident", which could have happened at any point in time, and the purpose of the experiment/system is to prevent it from happening in the first place.

[jb_10009]

I had been thinking about that, but I'm not sure how that ties in with everything yet. I definately agree that preventing something catastrophic fits better than just advancing science, so I would vote for your twist. And it fits nicely with "just saving the world" and the need for so much secrecy. I'm sure you are right, I just can't figure out yet what they are trying to prevent. I'm sure if I understood the others better, it would all come together.

The smokey is not the quarks, it is the mass-less-anti-matter-life-force from people who pressed the button, that got sucked along for the ride.

[trumpet152]

Though it sounds possible, we really have to ask ourselves if a tv audience would actually understand any of that. There is a large number of people who have no understanding of quantum physics. My guess is that the writers have an explanation that the majority of viewers can understand.

Awesome theory though. You seem to know your stuff.
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[Haravikk]

I'm not sure, considering what we've seen not everything will be revealed by easy to understand science. My bet is that we'll find out WHY things are as they are, but there will be more clues and snippets along the way that make plausible in scientific terms when you put the pieces together.
It would kill the show a bit if they had a Star Trek episode

[jb_10009]

Speaking of Star Trek, they would need to have a scanner scanning the life form that pushes the button in the minutes before time expires. Note that it makes sounds like a supermarket scanner in the period of time that it accepts the numbers.

Granted, the Quark Theory is pure simple Star Trek, but it is the simplest answer to many of the riddles. It could explain things quite quickly without losing the relationship story lines.

Note that the map shows a circle of stations, and a particle accelerator must be a circle to drive maximum speed using magnetic force. An endless water supply would be required to cool the nuclear power reactor, thus the station in the ocean.

Isolation would be required to protect against time anomalies. Thus the blind food drops, fake quarantine and monitoring stations. There could be one sequence of time/consciousness that loops until it resolves to stability. That may be what Daybreak is about.

The others may be engaged in an effort to assist the people who pushed the button to restore their psychological life balance in order to neutralize smoky. So, Sawyer and Kate are being taught to face their fears and love again.

Quark Theory also states that all possible event chains exist, only our consciousness is limited to a single linear path. If pushing the button is making the quantum path fuzzy for a person's consciousness, then a person would be able to perceive alternate possible time lines. That could be what is happening in Daybreak, and to all the main characters in Lost: Jack sees his father, because he is super-conscious of the timeline where his father lives. Because he lives in denial of his father's death, that alternate reality is dominant and manifests as an aspect of macro particle-wave duality. Also note that in DayBreak, the villain has control of huge construction gear.

The numbers have caused a certain path to become predestined, so the goal of DHARMA is to alter one of the numbers. The problem is that by causing time loops to stabilize, they have pulled free will out of the consciousness equation. The only way to break out of the loop is to put someone in a condition that is so isolated from all other things that the person regains free will to choose, and within that choice alter the numbers.

Surviving the plane crash is highly unlikely, so the only way it could have actually occurred in a shared conscious reality is if the only stable time loop contains the unlikely occurrence that the people involved in setting the numbers in the lottery also push the button later. Therefore, no other combination of events can be in alignment with the numbers in the past and future. So they survive not because it has a meaningful probability, but because it is the required sequence of events in a reality where all possibilities exist, but only this one has yielded those numbers, that magic series of palindromes.

[jb_10009]

The spin off day break also confirms the quark theory.

[jb_10009]

It will explain how the quark theory works.

[Pudwoppa]

Not sure I fully understand the science bits in the theory, but I think you're definately onto something with the whole 'going back in time to stop it before it happens' line of thinking [at least I think thats what you said ]. That might also explain why the others think that they're the good guys, but don't mind popping off a few of the survivors. If they're in some kind of time loop, then any actions within that loop may be cancelled out when it is ultimately resolved... am I onto something or just totally missing the point you used so many big words to explain?

[takelon84]

You are way off. In an attemp to solve everything you made a bunch of crazy outlandish assumptions about what has happened in the past. You also leave alot of open holes. For example you claimed the numbers are related to the quark palindromes, but they revealed a while ago that the numbers are the Valenzetti Equation.

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Valenzetti_Equation

Its more likely that the computer runs some kind of test on the equation. Probably on how to prolong human existance.

Thats just one example of the huge holes in your theory.

[Hurley Will Eat Sawyer]

Yes, the variables in the equation represent the palindromes.

[no_name]

I read the first few lines and stopped... please explain all this quarks and palindromes stuff, I'm not a scientist
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[jb_10009]

I think any series of numbers can be made to fit that equation, so I don't buy that as the full explanation. Regarding SciFi: the creators are sci-fi junkies and this is clearly sci-fi, but it is very charector driven, so sci-fi is the undercurrent, not the main focus. The new shows continue to fit this theory and many others. I was mostly drawn to this interpretation because it fits with all my other favorite theories on this website.