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[p.ore]

Hey guys…
1. FIRST - This is my first post here, after a lot of time thinking. I will try to explain my theory, which is almost just a collage of others’ theories.
2. SORRY - I am not American/English, so excuse me for my English.
3. NON-RELIGIOUS - There is NOTHING, absolutely nothing paranormal/religious with this show. My motives to believe in this statement are obvious: in order to make the show plausible, the writers cannot rely on nothing but logic and science. I am discarding purgatory, accidents, collective consciousness, schizophrenia, pole inversions, etc.
4. SIMPLICITY - Now we can finally understand the ambiguity of the show’s name, huh? We are really lost! Although I believe that the authors are working hard to make us lost, I believe that we, the viewers, are working too hard to understand it. Sometimes we cannot discover some secrets because there are missing clues, and we need them to understand everything. For instance, it was impossible for us to have guessed that Libby went to the same lunatic asylum where Hurley was. Hence, we will never understand everything for now, since there are essential clues missing.

1. THE NUMBERS
What do the numbers represent? Well, as said here in some posts, it probably is the coordinates for the island. 4.815 and 162.342. Thus, this numbers function almost as the name of the island. Instead of calling it “Dharma’s-bizarre-island”, they decided to name it “ 4.8.15.16.23.42.”.
I have done some digging, and this number sequence does not resemble any other numerical sequence. Some may argue that it can be different numerical sequences, but I seriously doubt it. There is no need for more complexity in this show than there already is.

2. “GOOD PEOPLE”
Well, this show includes a lot of philosophers, right? Rousseau, Hume, Locke. Hence, I will assume a nietzschean point of view here. The good people are not actually ‘good’, obviously. I have two hypotheses for this:
1. The good people are special: Walt and Locke were captured. Both of them have some special ability we are not aware of. Maybe the Others are just after them to test their abilities. WEAK POINT: what about Jack, Kate and Sawyer, whom they have captured in the S2 last episode?
2. The good people are the most representative: Walt is a child, son of a survivor. Locke is one of the leaders. Jack is another leader. Kate and Sawyer are very representative among the survivors. Hurley is the friendliest of them all! Maybe the other just want to show our survivors they are powerful, and not to mess with them (“go back, Hugo, and tell your friends not to come here anymore”, or something like that). But why? WEAK POINT: how would the Others know who the most representatives are if some of them were captured in their first night in the island?

3. “THE LIST”
How could the Others know the name of all passengers? Because they already knew they were going to crash. They had the Oceanic 815 passengers list! How? Oceanic and Dharma are/were working together.

4. THE PLANE CRASH
Was it an accident? NO, for God’s sake! Officially, Desmond forgot to press the button. Nevertheless, I (and some other guys here) believe everyone (the Others, Kelvin, Dharma leaders, Oceanic Airlines) knew about the accident.
Think about it… Kelvin runs away (making Des come after him. He knew Des would come), the Others got to the crash’s site almost instantly… What I do believe is that Kelvin was going to run away from the island, since new ‘survivors’ were coming.
There are two electromagnetic locations on the island. One comes from where our initial survivors (Jack, Locke) where, the second from where the ‘other’ survivors where (Ana Lucia, Eko). When both discharged, the tail part of the plane was attracted to the south, the nose section to the north.
Kelvin and his predecessor already knew about this plane fall, because Kelvin’s predecessor had divided the orientation film in two, and Kelvin was drawing a map for our Losties (could it be for anything else?).

5. THE FLASHES OF THE PAST
Why do we see some flashes of the characters past? More than just explaining their story, these flashes are necessary to explain how they came to the island. How they were forced to get the DL 815 flight (I would not be surprised if the ‘D’ in DL meant Dharma).
We already know Claire’s reason (the false psychic) and Eko’s (accident, in fact, Eko is one that is not meant to be in the flight: the Others cannot catch him). For instance, almost all of the Jack’s flashes of the past showed his father. And we know Jack was traveling because of his father’s death. Probably Jack’s father has some sort of connection with the Dharmies…

6. ELECTROMAGNETISM
It caused the plane to crash and split, it caused the black rock to get in the center of the island, it caused Desmond not to go away from the island with his boat and it is the responsible from the island’s invisibility.

7. THE WORLD IS ALIVE
The rest of the world is alive, and continue living normally. Our Losties are not alone in the Earth. Reasons: Penelope; the foreign-Antarctic guys, the Oceanic site (how could there be a note in the Oceanic site about the plane crash if everyone had been killed). Moreover, the Oceanic site makes us discard the collective consciousness theory, since the plane’s fall was real.

8. QUARANTINE
Why are there so many ‘quarantine’ signs? What is the disease? None. It is all part of another experiment. Obviously, this quarantine sign made the guinea pigs stay at the hatch. This prevented them from seeing strange things as Smokey and the Polar Bears. Moreover, the Others know that. Since they know a lot about the island (and they have access to the vaccines), why would them live open-air if this could make them sick?

9. THE STATUE
I certainly do not know what is it, but the strangest thing is that the statue is built over some rocks. If you can see, the rocks seemed to be ripped out of place. Could the electromagnetism be responsible for the other part of the statue’s disappearance?

10.SMOKEY
It is strange. It is big. It is mechanical. It is Smokey!
Smokey is how I call the black-smoke-monster of the island. What is it? I don’t know. Probably, it is:
a. A Dharma experiment (the Dharmies control it)
b. An Others’ experiment (the Others control it)
c. An experiment gone wrong (no one controls it)
I believe Smokey is compound of tiny pieces. It is not something concrete. I would totally believe it is a nano-monster, if the writers had not dismissed the theory.
Even though the monster is not made of nanobots, I assume it has something to do with the electromagnetic field of the island.

11. THE NUMBERS IN THE ASYLUM
The lunatic asylum has a more decisive impact than we could ever imagine. I believe that there were some people being analyzed on the island, with the psychological experiments. However, (at least) one of them got insane and needed to go to an asylum. Hurley meets him there.
The guy kept repeating the “island’s name”, and Hurley decided to bet with those numbers. When Hurley wins with that numbers, the Dharmies know that Hurley knows something and decide to put him on the plane.

12. MRS WHIDMORE
Penelope’s father wants Des away from her. He (implicitly) makes Des decide to make a tour around the world. During the tour, he somehow managed to put Des in the island.
Penelope knows that (maybe that’s why she cried when they met, before Des’ run), but cannot find him. She employers two men to work for her. They need to go to the Antarctica to see if they can find any anomaly, which would indicate the island.

13. POLAR BEARS
Gene therapy.

14. "WHERE'S SMOKEY???"
The authors said we've already seen him and have not noticed him. How?
1. HE IS HIDDEN IN THE SCENARIO (smokey is blended in the scene): not likely. The authors wouldn't make that statement unless we had REALLY seen him and noticed, leading us to...
2. WE'VE SEEN HIM IN OTHER FORMS... Such as...?
I believe this monster may have any form he wants. He can become Kate’s horse, Jack’s father, Hurley’s Dave, Sayid’s Walt… I know the authors got some inspiration from “The Prey” by Michael Crichton, in which a nanite monster can have any form it wants.
So, WOW, we clearly have already seen smokey! And, with this simple explanation, we can throw off the Collective Consciousness explanation! So now we understand why both Sayd and Shanon saw creepy Walt... The question now is "why would smokey assume this forms?"...

15. "THE CABLE"
What about the cable Sayid found? I don't have any explanations in particular, but it seems pretty obvious to me that the Dharmies have not abandoned the 'experiment' completely, thus we still get food falling from the skies... The cable ought to be some sort of communication bridge between the island and the 'Dharmies-in-control'...


There are is a lot missing, and I hope you can help me to better this theory… Also, I am sorry not to credit anyone. I have read many many posts, so some of the ideas I expose here are mine, some are from others. I am sorry. However, if you contact me, I will surely credit you.

Feel free to suggest changes/ criticize the ideas.

Thanks!

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[just another other]

This theory is brilliant....

It covers everything and is all incredibly plausible....

I am going to add it to the thread in my signature....

That is a great first post! Welcome to the site!
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[word96]

welcome to the site. you got some really great and plausible stuff in there. nice theory.
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[cerca]

i just wanted to say good compilation and your english is fine man

[dreambackup]

I'm still reading but to answer your 10th: Rousseau has a terrible french (it's even worse than that) and still nobody is questionning her being french...

it's a TV show, guys, they cast who they can...

about your theory, some things work other won't. but you got the show sumed up pretty well I think.

[crazylostlady]

extraordinary!! great job and your english is quite good. welcome to the forum.
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[Ruvido]

Portuguese is one of the most spoken language on the earth, based on number of people speaking it (223 million people). Anyway white people speaking portuguese are Portugueses and white Brazilians only so I bet the two antartica guys to be Brazilian... I think it's just a matter of english actors making brilliant efforts speaking foreign languages and I can explain it in this way: remember Angelo Busoni, the Italian guy with inoperable spinal tumor operated by Jack? Well I'm italian and I was quite surprised as the actor spoke a very very very good Italian, with right pronunciation and intonation, but just for the first sentence... second sentence he spoke was a little too "english". Anyway he seemed a lot Italian to me even if he's an english actor, thus I wouldn't count on exact pronunciation or intonation for guessing their origins: best guess they're brazilian? I go for it.

The plane splitted in two as an effect of air resistance and tail just dropped almost vertically on the north side of the island, while the fuselage with wings "planed" a little more ending up on the south side of the island.

Great post anyway.
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[galdino]

though it isn't true, the producers said the only countries where people speaks Portuguese are Brazil and Portugal
and they said it was some kind of clue
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[p.ore]

Thanks guys, for all the feedback, the critics and the comments...

I didn't know about 'Brazil and Portugal being the only countries in which portuguese is spoken'... guess I am wrong! I am erasing that part of the post... But this is weird... because the portuguese is really lousy...

What is intriguing me about the producers comment (the producers said the only countries where people speaks Portuguese are Brazil and Portugal and they said it was some kind of clue), is that they consider this a clue...

How could knowing that Portuguese is only spoken in Brazil and Portugal (it isn't) be a clue?

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dreambackup, could you mention what do you think that doesn't work?

what about the rest? Any other idea I haven't mention, any mistakes in my ideas...?

thanks again!

[galdino]

[galdino]

about your theory, I think you're right about the numbers being the name of the island, they probably named it the numbers because they have some importance to Dharma creators

I agree with the flashbacks part , and I also think they are going to show us who is behind it all

and 'bout the reason why the others took the three
I don't think is because they're "good", it's probably because they're the
strongest and the "leaders" of the losties
and maybe they were taken because they have some unconscious connection to Dharma
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[neo10neo]

very nice stuff. well phrased, and to the point. welcome to the forums.
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[Ruvido]

[galdino]

[p.ore]

Well, concearning the 'Portuguese issue', I believe we will have to wait and see if the actors were meant to speak such an horrible portuguese... or if it has something to do with the plot

You see, I have tiny little pieces, but I can't find any theory here.. Can anyone?

Anyways, anyone wants to include something? Something I missed? About the statue... or the cable?

Thanks.