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lost_ocean Lost Expert
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: The Dharma Destroys the World Theory |
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Ok, I've finally finished my theory. I posted part of it previously but it goes on much further. So here it is!!
The Dharma Destroys the World Theory
Dharma is up to something. I don't think they are philanthropists trying to save the world from imminent disaster, as some have suggested, citing the Valenzette Code Book.
Dharma is "Reaching out to a better tommorow." And wanting to use the sciences to make people live longer, cure diseases, ect, However we've seen evidence Dharma is not all it appears.
I think they are trying to end the world itself and to start a new society, a new perfect utopian world. Think of Microsoft gone awry.
I think several years ago they found people and began studying their lives. Looking to find the people needed for their experiments. Most of the Losties had fallings out with there family and wouldn't be missed. Claire, Charlie, Jack, Kate's on the run, Sawyer, well hurley's crazy, Eko, Jin wanting to disappear, Sayid doesn't really have anyone, the two kids one of there parents died the other disowned the girl. Anal fleeing a murder.
The others could be choosing who they believe are good to live on the island and also testing to see if their island can cure various ailments like cancer (Rose), mental illness (Hugo), paralyzation (Locke), the effects on babies in the new world (Claire), Drug addiction, (Charlie), Also the others have a troubled past like Sayid, Kate, Sawyer.
I think they planted people like Locke's father, the fake psychic, all the people to coordinate that they would all end up on the same flight.
Hurley - The guy at the institution told him of a guy in Australia so he'd go there.
Claire - The psyhic set her up
Jack - We've all seen his father wasn't really dead
Jin - Was set up to deliver a watch
Locke's - His father was planted
Kate - I think the Marshall kept her until it was time for the perfect flight
Eko - Perhaps his brothers flight was meant to take him to the island and it got mixed up. Then later they had to fix it so he would be on flight 815. That would explain how the plane ended up there.
Charlie - Could his brother have gotten him on drugs in purpose? Did Dharma pay him?
(Think about it though. If it was planned don't you think they'd have the hindsight to put a mole on the plane? One of the main characters?)
I think the pilot flew off course on purpose. I think they could have easily added something to make the plane more magnetic and somehow controlled the crash just enough. Or Desmond messed up coincidently from the plan and made the plane crash, killing all but a few survivors from the 300 chosen for the experiment or there were just a few chosen and the rest were brought along. Or the black smoke picked out the survivors.
I think the others wear disguises because they are scientists working for Dharma and want to hide that fact. They don't want the tests corrupted. Especially the psychological ones. This is why they are keeping old equipment around as well. It was actually in use back in the times of the videos, but is now just obsolete and another facility is being used on the island for current experiments. Another much more modern building as yet undiscovered by the losties. If the scientists know the way out but don't leave, did tests on Walt, and are still having food dropped it makes sense they are in contact with Dharma and have an updated place somewhere.
They took Claire to the old hatch in case they were discovered or she remembered something because they definetly don't want anyone finding their main headquarters. You'll notice everything was gone when the losties found it. Basically, they are living in comfort in the real "headquarters" but dressing like transients to throw the losties off the track.
I think the sickness is some disease Dharma is manufacturing to wipe out human kind or a select amount of the population. I think the losties were secretly given the treatment before they got to the island. However Claire's baby might have needed the vacinne in order to not be infected. So that's why he was kidnapped. I think they were testing it on the island and quarantining the scientists underground in hatches till they could perfect it, while their other experiments were still going on. It was a good ruse to trick Desmond and make sure he didn't explore the island.
I think Rosseu and her team were one of the first people who got to the island for testing. They all got the sickess while it was still being worked out 16 years ago but somehow Reusso was immune. Which is why they bother keeping her alive. Maybe they even got a vaccine from her.
I also think there is a huge electromagnetic field around the island. This would explain why the compass was off target. Why it is "hidden" in a sense from satallites and any tracking devices. I think this magnetism could control the black smoke as well. There could also be a broad range of other testing done with magnetism.
I think the pushing the button is to notify Dharma that the experiment is still going on. If it is discovered by the military or interrupted for some reason then it is set to destroy itself. At least that used to be its purpose.
Perhaps the island is also hidden by other means as well. So that the electromagnet shield became obsolete, (the video was old) and the others didn't mind Desmond going and pressing the button. Since if it was important. I doubt they would let someone not involved in the project run it.
Penny, who knows about the island because her father is funding Hanso, sent scientists to discover any electromagnetic abnormalities somewhere in the general area the island was in. Since this must have occured when Desmond didn't press the button the first time she began to realize this was the key to finding the island. Antartica is the only thing south of the island so that's where I think they were.
I also think Walts ability to appear in the forest explains how Jack is seeing his father and Kate her horse. This may be in the realm of their metaphysical experiments. That Walt being psychic could tap into while they were experimenting on him to make himself appear. They could be testing out the ability to manifest whatever a human desires in this new utopian world. The black smoke could be studying the memories for these purposes.
I think the goal of the zoology hatch is to adapt animals to live in any climate in the world. They are trying to tame wild animals like the shark and polar bear. Though it has been unsuccesful and some may have escaped.
I think "Adam" and "Eve" were being used in Dharma's life extention project. They either lived an extrodinarily long time in whatever time they lived in and were brought to the island to study or were already old and made to live years longer while staying on the island until they died. Or were thrown in the water wasted.
I think the statue was started as an epiphany of the perfect human in the new world. A bit of self arrogance by Dharma. It doesn't look old or has been kept up well.
So basically Dharma thinking it is doing the right thing wants to wipe out human kind, saving only a select few and starting over with a new perfect world.
What do you think? _________________

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ThinkOutsideTheHatch12109 Lost Newbie
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I think your very close to right, or completly right! |
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just another other I am Him
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is a great theory, and is very well thought out...
By the way, ocean, the link in your signature is great!  _________________ LOST IS LOOPS. Click here. |
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lost_ocean Lost Expert
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 265 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Awww thanks, you guys are awesome!!
Yeah, I made the pic from the link myself, Haha. Well the smoke guy anyway. I don't know why art school turned me down. (kidding)
Is there a way to use the image in my signature like using [img or <img tag? If anyone reads this and knows, thanks!! _________________
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It's just a mistake! Lost is my Life
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't like the whole "Dharma destroys society" idea, but it is an interesting point how they ALL have lost connections to their family and/or won't really be missed. |
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allroadsleadhere411 Lost Junkie
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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So dharma is making a perfect society. cough cough (natzi's) But i do like alot of what you have to say. Good theory! _________________ I should of gone straight to the experts
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Interesting theory.  _________________
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lost_ocean Lost Expert
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all for your comments. _________________
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just another other I am Him
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puffzilla Lost Junkie
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| i was thinking along the same lines but the last scenes in the season finale, when Desmond's girlfriend got that call, blew that theory out of the water for me. |
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$m0k3 Lost Junkie
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| i think alot of what you're saying is true, about extinguishing the human race to start their own society, im not sure about that. Very nicely though out(Y) |
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condog Lost Expert
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I love the theory but to me it felt lke there were a thousand theories in one if you know hwta i mean _________________ condog blows kisses to all.
"Wait a minute... There's a SKATE!!!Copyright condog 2007 |
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24k35h Lost Expert
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Great theory... just a few wrinkles...
-/ I know for arguements sake Jacks Dad might not be dead, but Jack himself ID'd him, being a doctor and a son, one would probably take that as a pretty strong confirmation that he is dead
-/ If Desmond was allowed to press the button and the button isn't bullshit, i.e. it obviously does something they most definitly wouldn't leave him to it, or maybe they just didn't know the consequences of the counter running to 0... But being dharma and building/designing it, they probably would have...
And you sort of contradicted yourself saying the old hatches aren't in use but the button is there to tell dharma that its still being pushed and the experiment is still being run, but the only observations were the printer and the pnuematic tubes, which by the look of things have not been touched in ages.
-/ If the pilot was in on it, why did he get 0wnd by whatever the hell that monster thing was?
-/ I don't know if they cured Hurley because he did have another episode with Dave...
-/ Why would they erect a statue with 4 toes as symbol of that? It'd make more sense using something a bit more tasteful, not something related to Atlantis or something like that.
Either way, Just a bit of constructive criticism, maybe these points will be folded out or proven false in time..
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lost_ocean Lost Expert
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| 24k35h wrote: | Great theory... just a few wrinkles...
-/ I know for arguements sake Jacks Dad might not be dead, but Jack himself ID'd him, being a doctor and a son, one would probably take that as a pretty strong confirmation that he is dead
-/ If Desmond was allowed to press the button and the button isn't bullshit, i.e. it obviously does something they most definitly wouldn't leave him to it, or maybe they just didn't know the consequences of the counter running to 0... But being dharma and building/designing it, they probably would have...
And you sort of contradicted yourself saying the old hatches aren't in use but the button is there to tell dharma that its still being pushed and the experiment is still being run, but the only observations were the printer and the pnuematic tubes, which by the look of things have not been touched in ages.
-/ If the pilot was in on it, why did he get 0wnd by whatever the hell that monster thing was?
-/ I don't know if they cured Hurley because he did have another episode with Dave...
-/ Why would they erect a statue with 4 toes as symbol of that? It'd make more sense using something a bit more tasteful, not something related to Atlantis or something like that.
Either way, Just a bit of constructive criticism, maybe these points will be folded out or proven false in time..
Cheers. |
I appreciate your clever response. Those are certainly things I need to make sure coincide with my theory. I'll give it some thought and try to fix up, change, or add to the theory when I'm not so braindead and tierd, since I'm off to bed soon! 0_0 Thanks!
Thank you to the other 2 new commenters to. _________________
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